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How do you punish your kids?

Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:09 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:09 am
So our 14 year old has always been a pretty good kid, does her chores, makes good grades, etc... No issues. When she does screw up it usually only takes grounding once, etc to get her back on track.


Our 8 year old boy is a whole other issue. Kid has been given some real responsibility for the first time this year and he is failing miserably.

His daily responsibilities are...

1. Take out trash if needed
2. Feed and water the pets.
3. Pick out his clothes for the next day.
4. Homework obviously.
5. Get a shower the night before school (I was always a morning shower person, but whatever)
6. Wake up on time by his alarm, fix hair, brush teeth, get dressed for school.

The boy just fails miserably...

He usually gets half of it right, but not all. One day the hair is fixed. But the pets aren't fed... Next day vice versus... Etc.


He pretty much stays grounded from Xbox and tv. He does pretty good when he is grounded, but as soon as he gets them back after being grounded a few weeks it's back to the forgetting to do this or that.

He has been spanked several times this year, but we try to reserve that for things like lying etc... Which it seems he has gotten better at.



This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 5:11 am
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:13 am to
How does he respond to positive reinforcement?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:14 am to
Your 8 year old son son sounds like a completely normal kid. Relax.
Posted by PolyPusher86
St. George
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:15 am to
Challenge him to a fist fight
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:16 am to
Does he have a list of all his chores posted?

Like on a poster board in his room so he can be reminded of what is expected?
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:20 am to
quote:

Does he have a list of all his chores posted?

Like on a poster board in his room so he can be reminded of what is expected?


Yes, on the fridge.. he can recite them if you ask at any time, lol. It's not that he doesn't know them.

His biggest problem is that when he has TV and Xbox he comes home and does that instead of getting chores done first.

He is a procrastinator, lazy to a normal degree, and easily distracted.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 5:20 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:22 am to
quote:

Your 8 year old son son sounds like a completely normal kid. Relax.


For 2018? Yeah.. he is way ahead of the game.

For when I grew up. He is behind.

Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:25 am to
if he’s a good kid ( good grades, nice to people, respectful etc.) I would take that. Kids are all different, spanking for not doing chores is excessive in my opinion. I have a grandson that’s around your sons age and if he got a spanking for not doing a chore... we would have a problem
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:27 am to
We don't spank him often. He has been spanked twice this year. And both times it was for lying multiple times in a row.


I just threw that out there for the "you need to beat him crowd"

He is a pretty good kid, and nice. But he is a charmer, weasel, and a manupipulator, lol.

He's all sweet and super good when he's in trouble. Just can't act that way when he is not.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 5:30 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26808 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:29 am to
You need to post “regular” hours for TV and Xbox, he gets x amount earned after a chore up until x amount of time for each evening and weekend (like he earns 15 minutes each day for completeing task up until 90 minutes and that’s it). He can earn extra time (maybe he starts with 90 minutes for the full day) on the weekend for full completion of task per weekday (15 extra mins per day he completes everything). Make sure you stick by whatever you decide and don’t waver.

I would also get him into a team sport or even karate if you want him to learn discipline and responsibility.

There’s a million things out there, he sounds pretty normal so just do some research


ETA - I know this sounds crazy, but check out the Feingold diet. It actually works if you follow to every detail
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 5:32 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:32 am to
I like the regular hours idea. May have to try that.

Part of the issue is I work nights and am not home during the week... And momma is a softy... Lol
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:32 am to
You are in the wrong place to ask this... PLUS you are a terrible parent IF you bring it here...................
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20260 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:35 am to
quote:

The boy just fails miserably...



where there is failure in the ranks there is a lack of leadership. you need to speak to him and allow him to tell you why he's not doing his chores. you can't have expectations that he's going to master the same tasks your daughter did at the same age. he's his own person and further more boys develop slower than girls.

here are some options i think would be helpful:

speak to him frankly but supportingly and listen to him earnestly about why he isn't completing his chores. with his answer to that question you can determine if it's matter of cognition(forgetting, not understanding, etc), motivation, or defiance.

a. if it's a matter of cognition, then that's easy: lighten his chore list. cut it in half or to the point that he masters each task and feels positive about it. life is about mastering tasks. when we fail we feel miserable, when we succeed we gain confidence and understanding. your job as a parent is to allow him to succeed on his own terms, not your daughters or anyone else's.


b. if it's a matter of motivation, then give him more positive reinforcement and praise when he gets it right, and from BOTH parents. Suggest a treat or trip somewhere cool at the end of the month, week, whatever. you know what motivates your boy(and if you don't you should find out asap), so use that.


c. if it's a matter of defiance, then find out why he's mad. is it at you? mom? sis? bully at school? don't become angry with him without fully knowing his motivation to defy. problems like this don't come out of thin air and can't be magically resolved by fear, they get resolved by understanding. him understanding you and you understanding him. spanking only makes him more upset and resentful, especially when all he wants is for you to be proud of him and to feel loved and understood by his dad.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:35 am to
quote:

You are in the wrong place to ask this... PLUS you are a terrible parent IF you bring it here...................


Well since you said it Peej... I'm going with the exact opposite.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61780 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:36 am to
Emphasize the philosophy of first do what you have to do then do what you want to do.

That will make for a better life.

Make a gold star chart for the fridge. Any day all chores were done, put a star on it. Fill up a row of 5 or 7 stars, give him $10.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 5:37 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:37 am to
quote:


where there is failure in the ranks there is a lack of leadership. you need to speak to him and allow him to tell you why he's not doing his chores. you can't have expectations that he's going to master the same tasks your daughter did at the same age. he's his own person and further more boys develop slower than girls. 

here are some options i think would be helpful: 

speak to him frankly but supportingly and listen to him earnestly about why he isn't completing his chores. with his answer to that question you can determine if it's matter of cognition(forgetting, not understanding, etc), motivation, or defiance. 


Oh, he has told me multiple times it's cause he has been lazy and just thought he wouldn't get caught. We went threw the lying phase... Think he finally learned that doesn't work.


Honestly, I think his biggest issues is he just gets distracted and forgets when he is allowed to do other stuff. That's why I like the regular hours idea.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 5:40 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:41 am to
quote:

Emphasize the philosophy of first do what you have to do then do what you want to do. 

That will make for a better life. 

Make a gold star chart for the fridge. Any day all chores were done, put a star on it. Fill up a row of 5 or 7 stars, give him $10.



I enforce the do what you have to do first ALL THE TIME.


As for the stars thing we already tried something like that.

He actually did worse believe it or not.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 5:46 am
Posted by tiger114
Fairhope, AL
Member since Sep 2009
5235 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:41 am to
That seems like a lot of chores for an 8 year old. I have an 11 year old and twin 10 year olds and they don’t do that much collectively.

Mine all make really good grades and are never in trouble. They will help clean the house or feed pets if/when I ask, but that’s about it. I’m happy with that.

Of course, the inmates are running the asylum here for sure, so I’m probably screwing up on the other end of the spectrum.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:44 am to
He is nine in about two weeks, plus I look back on what my parents expected of me at that age. It was as much if not more.

Also, I didn't come up with the responsibilities. Momma did.. I'm just the enforcer.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20260 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:45 am to
quote:

Oh, he has told me multiple times it's cause he has been lazy and just thought he wouldn't get caught.


sounds like his motivation is video games. use that. restrict that, but give him other more meaningful and educational things to do. you could get him music lessons. My parents made me take music lessons starting at 8.

the key is to stay calm and bring the level of discourse to a place without anxiety or negative energy. explain why you think it's better for him to only play video games on the weekends, why being lazy is not good, and why being dishonest will make people not like him or trust him. give him examples. you're his teacher of life! every moment is a learning lesson for you and him.


whatever you do, definitely limit the technology. it's addictive and today's kids are especially vulnerable cause all their friend do it, whereas we were outside playing.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 5:52 am
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