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re: How do people afford to live in California, esp the minorities and gays?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Really not the case. Median income in California is just slightly above average
Inland of the coast and in the huge area between LA and SF and North of SF, is California really still expensive? Asking for real. Don't know.
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Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:30 am to TigerstuckinMS
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Inland of the coast and in the huge area between LA and SF and North of SF, is California really still expensive? Asking for real. Don't know.
The central valley isn't.
California has a lot of poor people.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:30 am to 13SaintTiger
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It never amazes me how retarded people from Louisiana can be
It's breathtaking.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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California has a lot of poor people.
And they typically are inland, or are living in the lowest rung of the housing filtering properties in the expensive cities. It is expensive for the middle-class by comparison to other places, as buying first homes is ridiculous in certain areas of CA.
Outdoor activities are routinely cheaper for access, a lot of free live music, and you can get tickets for sporting events for cheaper than you would imagine.
Gas and eating at restaurants are kickers. Housing is the only real necessity that affordability is the issue. Keeping up with the Joneses is a bad idea if you don't have the income.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:40 am to Montezuma
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Keeping up with the Joneses
Overrated...
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:44 am to TigerstuckinMS
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Inland of the coast and in the huge area between LA and SF and North of SF, is California really still expensive? Asking for real. Don't know.
The Central Valley isn't super expensive, but still more than a lot of places in other parts of the country that are much nicer than Modesto, Stockton, etc. Even Sacramento is just ok IMHO. And like Roger said, the average salary in California isn't particularly high, probably similar to Texas if I had to guess. Salaries in the Bay Area, LA, etc. are definitely higher though.
A lot more people rent in California than in cheaper places, especially the middle/upper middle class. Also, average folks live in much smaller houses and/or condos in a lot of the more expensive cities/towns. My in-laws are pretty well off and live in an expensive part of Sacramento, and their house is an unimpressive 3BR/2BA (Around 1500 SF)... $700,000. And Sacramento is pretty cheap compared to SF, LA, SJ, SD.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Overrated...
Agreed. Which is why I find when people state CA is unaffordable a subjective statement. Actually having a good life in CA is not hard when you don't try to have the newest and shiniest.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:47 am to schwartzy
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Others who work at Wal Mart, fast food, or other menial jobs.
No self-respecting homosexual is going to work at any of these.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:51 am to Montezuma
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Actually having a good life in CA is not hard when you don't try to have the newest and shiniest.
Yep. It has some extremes but a lot of "average" people live there and are content.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:53 am to LSUBoo
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Credick card debt.
Fify
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:53 am to schwartzy
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esp the minorities and gays
Wow.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:55 am to TbirdSpur2010
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esp the minorities and gays
Only 1 out of 2, baw... Relax. This is the OTL after all.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:58 am to schwartzy
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How do people afford to live in California, esp the minorities and gays?
Sit your broke arse down.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:00 am to TbirdSpur2010
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esp the minorities and gays
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Wow.
Ignorance abounds on the OT.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:02 am to dj30
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Sit your broke arse down.
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schwartzy
OP is definitely in poor taste, but him being broke isn't likely. I'm sure you're aware of those, ahem... Rhymes with "news."
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 11:05 am
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:02 am to schwartzy
Lots of jealous poor people in this thread.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:03 am to schwartzy
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How do people afford to live in California
Other People's Money.
It's the California way.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:08 am to schwartzy
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How do people afford to live in California, esp the minorities and gays?
They don't. People are moving out of California.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:11 am to schwartzy
It's going to be easy in the future!
https://money.cnn.com/2017/10/27/news/economy/stockton-universal-basic-income/index.html
We're going to all get taken care of!
No more tough decisions or choices to make. Just let Daddy Government take care of us.
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Free cash for everyone? Stockton, Calif.'s mayor plans to see if it works
by Lydia DePillis
As a kid growing up in Stockton, California, a little extra money would've meant the world to Michael Tubbs' family.
Tubbs' mother worked long hours as a cashier at a Discovery Zone and still had to borrow from check cashing places to get by. "If we had $300 a month, life would be less stressful, or we could move into another neighborhood," Tubbs says. "Maybe she would've been able to go back to school and get her BA, or pursue a passion."
Today, Tubbs is Stockton's 27-year-old mayor. Last week, he announced the launch of an experimental program that will give people like his mom about $500 a month, with no strings attached.
Stockton will likely become the first city in the nation to test out a version of universal basic income, an economic system that would regularly provide all residents enough money to cover basic expenses, with no conditions or restrictions.
Stockton hopes to launch its program next year and enroll several hundred of the city's residents for at least a couple of years, depending on the availability of funding.
The concept of universal basic income — or UBI — has been around for decades. Martin Luther King advocated for it in 1967 to create a minimum standard of living. Up until recently, it has mostly been a subject of discussion among academics. But universal basic income has started to gain traction as poverty has grown and fears of automation killing jobs have mounted.
Large-scale trials began this year in Finland and Canada to test whether the program improves outcomes like health and employment.
https://money.cnn.com/2017/10/27/news/economy/stockton-universal-basic-income/index.html
We're going to all get taken care of!
No more tough decisions or choices to make. Just let Daddy Government take care of us.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:12 am to schwartzy
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How do people afford to live in California, esp the minorities and gays?
They're struggling to.
Rent and home prices have skyrocketed just in the past 5 years. It's very difficult to find a place to rent in the Greater LA area for less than $2000 unless you're willing to have roommates or live in an absolute dump. Even the dumps are around $2000. Shitty Compton houses are on the market for $400k+. Decent suburban neighborhoods are pushing $750k easily.
LA is also becoming an issue with traffic. There's not really a good public transportation system, and commute times can be around an hour for a 10 mile drive during rush hour. So to move there now would mean commuting 60-90 minutes in the morning and again in the evening to go to a modest residence for $2000+/month.
Section 8 and rent control help lock in affordable prices for people, but in terms of moving there nowadays? You better have a high paying job or some serious cash in the bank to make it work.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 11:14 am
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