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re: How do Creationists reconcile discoveries that date back hundreds of millions of years

Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:54 am to
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:54 am to
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Fish become philosophers!! Monkeys become men! Nothing created everything! But we can’t prove it.

That is a tough one. Equally tough is to reconcile that there was no beginning before God. I just kind of roll with who I find more intelligent; the scientist or the priest.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 7:56 am
Posted by RebelExpress38
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:54 am to
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Creationism of ~6k years


Most creationists believe time in the creation account was relative. The earth didn’t even exist for part of creation so why would it make sense to use earth days? Also the New Testament talks about 1000 years being but a day to God, so it’s easy to consider that the “days” of creation were just giving us a way to understand the order.


I think the biggest issues with Evolution are the fine tuning of the universe, the shear amount of information in DNA, and the Cambrian Explosion. The amount of faith it takes to believe these things happened by chance is staggering to me.

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Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:54 am to
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Well, if CS Lewis believed it, it must be a somewhat reasonable position that theism and evolution is compatible and this thread is retarded


FIFY
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:56 am to
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That is a tough one, Equally tough is to reconcile that there was no beginning before God. I just kind of roll with who I find more intelligent; the scientist or the priest.


These days with all the propaganda “the science” puts out?

Probably the priest
Posted by Naked Bootleg
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:56 am to
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It blows my mind how many people on this site accept creationism over evolution.


Why not both? I believe species evolve and evolution has created new species. My argument always comes down to this: how exactly did life come to be on Earth?

I don't buy the primordial soup & lightning theory. So once I consider all the ridiculously impossible odds leading to Earth being where it is in relation to the Sun.. then the chances of a series of theoretical occurrences which could lead to a single-cell organism springing to life out of nothing... the idea of a Creator starts becoming a lot more plausible.

If the simplest forms of life were sent to Earth with the knowledge that those microscopic organisms would eventually evolve into complex life forms... that's easier for me to reconcile than the stupid amount of chances required for all this to happen circumstantially.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:57 am to
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These days with all the propaganda “the science” puts out?

Probably the priest

Yea, cause there has never been propaganda in the "House of God"
Posted by phunkatron
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:58 am to
You fundamentally do not understand evolution. A fish didn't just start spawning frog eggs one day. Gradual beneficial genetic changes built up over thousands and thousands of years that allowed them to tolerate terrestrial environments.

Sorry we can't give you the 2 second color-book graphic of evolution. Must mean it's fake.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 7:58 am
Posted by OU812ME2
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Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:58 am to
It doesn't matter to me. I really couldn't care less. But it's just something the Atheist push to try and disprove God. And yes it's their 'religion'. At the heart of it all isn't Science as much of trying to disprove God. I believe there is room for interpretation on both sides of the theories. In the end it doesn't matter at all to me and my life.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:59 am to
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Scientific method by definition is it is observable and repeatable. Evolution is neither. That is not science. It is a fairy tale. A blind belief system. A religion in it’s own.


Your eye/hair color, your mother or father's?
Height?
Mannerisms?
Intellectual capacity?

The science is there; the art is in how to dispell what creationism has taught you and incorporate the observed and repeated into the creationist's narrative, which I believe to be true - we were created and are continuing to be created via evolution.

Mr. Charles Darwin had the gall to ask (REM), but he is not the whole story.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:59 am to
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At the heart of it all isn't Science as much of trying to disprove God
No
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57465 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:59 am to
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No one has made that argument


Did you not read the second post in this thread and recognize the enthymemes right in front of your face?

Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:01 am to
Hundreds of examples. It hilarious how many times Carbon dating screws things up. It is not reliable at all.

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Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:02 am to
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Why not both?


This!

Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10473 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:02 am to
So any somewhat reasonable position makes further discussion of the topic retarded? Lewis would not approve of that.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:02 am to
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At the heart of it all isn't Science as much of trying to disprove God
No

Exactly. If anything (assuming existence), Science is attempting to discover "him".
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:03 am to
Again, that is adaptation.

My question still stands: can you give me one example of observable evidence of a change of kind??


I want just one. Please!
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:03 am to
Evolutionists still haven’t explained why there are still monkeys if we came from monkeys. They would have evolved into humans
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10473 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:03 am to
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Hundreds of examples. It hilarious how many times Carbon dating screws things up. It is not reliable at all.

I think a home schooled 5th grader built that site
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 8:06 am
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:04 am to
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It blows my mind how many people on this site accept creationism over evolution.


Intelligent design. Evolution can be the answer to the how and not the why.

God exists. He is all that is good and right and just. He is love and mercy. He has known you through all time and he calls you to himself. He gives you the beautiful gift of free will and life on earth and all he asks in return is you say thank you to Him and love your neighbors.

And every day we deny Him and elevate ourselves above Him. Earnestly search your heart and you will find him there. Deny the worldly pleasures of earth and you will find your reward in heaven and eternal life. Choose worldly pleasure over the Lord and you will reap your eternal reward at judgment day.

There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, for you will see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you will be thrown out
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10473 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:04 am to
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I don't buy the primordial soup & lightning theory
Neither does evolution theory
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