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re: How do Creationists reconcile discoveries that date back hundreds of millions of years

Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:22 am to
Posted by CoyoteSong
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:22 am to
Earth is not heaven.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:24 am to
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Earth is not heaven.


So Jesus was in heaven performing miracles? Jesus turned water into wine in heaven? Jesus cured the sick in heaven?

Huh. Weird.

It’s okay. Your shite tier god that gives innocent children cancer won’t come down and help. He won’t send his children to turn water into wine for you.


Oh…. And I’ll still be here tomorrow, proving that your shite tier god doesn’t exist.
Posted by CoyoteSong
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:26 am to
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The syrinx of passerine birds facilitated reproductive isolation which allowed for greater range of vocalizations, which drove the amazing diversity of this clade


What did the bird become?

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Another example of the case of African antelopes,


What did antelope become?

I need observable evidence of a change of kind. Sounds like a passerine bird became a passerine bird.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 9:26 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:26 am to
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I need observable evidence of a change of kind.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:27 am to
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What did the bird become?



It became over 6000 distinct species.

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What did antelope become?



The comparison is between two subfamilies, one of which has only one species and one of which has 27.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:27 am to
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So Jesus was in heaven performing miracles? Jesus turned water into wine in heaven? Jesus cured the sick in heaven?


No he did that on earth.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:29 am to
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I need observable evidence of a change of kind.


Again, the observable evidence at the genetic level would be overwhelming, but if I were to take the time to quote it at you, it still wouldn't phase you. You'd ask some glib questions and then pretend like the evidence didn't meet some invisible standard you have.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 9:30 am
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:29 am to
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Have you ever considered that creation took place all across the Earth a long, long time ago and evolved, by design, into present day humans and experience?


A world wide flood would account for a lot of the aging process. Basically would "age" the Earth millions of years in weeks. There is evidence all over the earth that supports this but people want to ignore it.

Evolution within a species , sure. Thousands of years of that would have drastic changes to every species, especially those that became isolated. All life evolving from a slimy fish that crawled out of the water, no chance. That'd be like a tornado blowing through a junk yard and leaving behind a fully functional F-14 jet. Impossible. Except that would be a million times more likely than life "accidentally" happening.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:29 am to
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The old lost scriptures, “The Book of Adam and Eve” and “The Book of Enoch” go into creationism a lot more. I encourage you to read them put together by Joseph Ludwig.

Is there a podcast or YT on that!
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:30 am to
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became over 6000 distinct species.


It is still a bird. There are 18 different definitions of species. I need an example of a change of kind. Example feline kind: house cat, Tiger, lion, mountain lion.

I need one example.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38969 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:30 am to
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No he did that on earth.


So what does earth not being heaven have to do with it?

The miracles were done on earth, not in heaven you stupid frick.

Sooooo when can I expect the big man to pop on down and kill me? I mean, he is omnipresent and has that ability.

Surely he wouldn’t let some blasphemer talk shite about him and call him out and not retaliate.

Your god is an angry god, after all. Member the Old Testament?
Posted by saderade
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:30 am to
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No he did that on earth.
Well according to a book written by his followers. I’m sure it’s 100% historically accurate
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:32 am to
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So Jesus was in heaven performing miracles? Jesus turned water into wine in heaven? Jesus cured the sick in heaven?



No he did that on earth.

While I may think you're vapid, please take solice in the fact that I think the same of beerJeep.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 9:33 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38969 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:34 am to
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please take solice in the fact that I think the same of beerJeep.


It’s okay. Your shite tier god won’t do shite
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:34 am to
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Well according to a book written by his followers. I’m sure it’s 100% historically accurate
Why is "they're lying" valid for followers, but not for vitriolic anti-christian (like you) scientists? There is no proof this is 100 millions years old. You would have to have something that you know for a fact is 100 million years old and compare your testing. But that's impossible
Posted by LSURep864
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:34 am to
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t’s okay. Your shite tier god that gives innocent children cancer won’t come down and help. He won’t send his children to turn water into wine for you.



If there is no God, then you have nothing to complain about. Children dying in your worldview is just a meat bag going offline. Decomposing into the earth which will eventually be destroyed when the sun explodes as the universe dies a slow death a trillion years from now. Nothing, and nobody will be here and everything you worried about will be quite literally for nothing.


Therefore, from your point of view, there is literally and objectively nothing wrong with a child dying from cancer. Because there is literally no such thing as right and wrong, objectively for you. Just meat bags with opinions that won't ultimately matter.

All arguments you have for pointing out "the problem of evil" are comical because you have no standard to point to as to what evil is.


Don't straw man this as saying "You don't have morality." I am sure you have a moral compass, all humans do. We are born with it.


Your problem is in your point of view in 1 trillion years everything you believe will literally amount to NOTHING which means it's irrational for you to have a problem with children dying of cancer. It's just a meat bag meeting their inevitable nihilist ending.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:35 am to
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It is still a bird. There are 18 different definitions of species. I need an example of a change of kind. Example feline kind: house cat, Tiger, lion, mountain lion.



What? Are you saying a house cat, a tiger, a lion, a mountain lion suggest a 'change of kind' but New Zealand wrens, African broadbills, reed warblers, mockingbirds, and cardinals don't? Or do you want the delineation of an entire clade?
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 9:36 am
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:35 am to
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CoyoteSong


I need examples!!

20 different posters gives him examples.

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CoyoteSong



No not that kind the kind where human beings would have to have existed and kept records for millions of years to prove.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:36 am to
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It’s okay. Your shite tier god won’t do shite

I hope not. If Mr. Coyote is right, I'm going straight to hell.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:37 am to
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Again, the observable evidence at the genetic level would be overwhelming, but if I were to take the time to quote it at you, it still wouldn't phase you. You'd ask some glib questions and then pretend like the evidence didn't meet some invisible standard you have.



You forgot the part where creationists then substitute in explanations that not only have significantly less supporting evidence, they have none whatsoever.
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