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re: How did the Big Bang happen?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:23 pm to DustyDinkleman
Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:23 pm to DustyDinkleman
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I’m laughing that you think there’s a magical man sitting in the clouds “controlling” things that have scientific explanations.
Wait. You think it’s a woman?? Geez. Now that is dumb
Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:26 pm to Crimson1st
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The problem with all sides of the universal origins argument comes from the fact that we have a finite understanding of how things work. We humans box our understanding within the constraints of things we live under like time, starting points, things like that.
Agreed. No matter how hard you try to teach them, your dog will never understand Calculus. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:30 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:hardly.
accepted science
Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:52 pm to Darth_Vader
I listened to a theoretical physicist say flat out that nobody knows.
He floated a theory about negative gravity that pushed the entire universe outward.
It was way over my head.
He floated a theory about negative gravity that pushed the entire universe outward.
It was way over my head.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:55 pm to Darth_Vader
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How did the Big Bang happen
Two fat asteroids got drunk at a spacebar and the rest is history.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 4:13 pm to Darth_Vader
From another universe's Big Crunch?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 4:40 pm to Kracka
I suppose philosophy and metaphysics can only take you so far.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 4:44 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Space, time, matter and energy we’re all created at the same moment, by Almighty God.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 5:19 pm to Darth_Vader
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"As my friend Terence McKenna used to say, that modern science is based on the principle, 'Give us one free miracle, and we'll explain the rest'. And the one free miracle is the appearance of all the matter and energy in the universe, and all the laws that govern it, from nothing, in a single instant."
- Rupert Sheldrake
Posted on 5/4/20 at 5:37 pm to MLU
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I've always laughed at the notion that some people there is no god but believe that there was nothing, then a huge explosion from that nothing that created everything.
If the history of science has taught us one thing it is that it is premature to use deities or the supernatural to explain something we don't presently understand from A-Z.
Someone in 2020 asserting God into the equation because we don't understand all the intricacies of the BB is like someone from a few thousand years ago believing that thunder is caused by angry gods because he can't explain thunder. In all likelihood what we don't know today will be explained in the future. And if it's not, it could just be that solving the multibillion year history of the Universe is a little too challenging for us. Frogs don't understand why the world switches from day to night, but the frog's lack of understanding doesn't make it a supernatural event.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 5:43 pm to UGATiger26
No worries at all! This is one of those debates that I love to get into. I grew up Catholic and overtime my faith is steered more towards science than religion. I respect everyone’s opinion but I just can’t understand that there’s a heavenly being who controls everything in this universe. I grew up Catholic and overtime my faith is steered more towards science than religion. I respect everyone’s opinion but I just can’t understand that there’s a heavenly being who controls everything in this universe.
If you want to watch some amazing science skip to the two minute mark in this video. I think it explains how long the universe will be in existence: LINK
I don’t think God snapped his fingers to create a universe where We will only be here for a short period of time. Professor Cox and others believe that The arrow of time has created a bright window in the Universe’s adolescence during which life is possible, but it’s a window that won’t stay open for long. As a fraction of the lifespan of the Universe, as measured from it’s beginning to the evaporation of the last black hole, life as we know it is only possible for one-thousandth of a billion billion billionth, billion billion billionth, billion billion billionth, of a per cent.
MIND BLOWN
If you want to watch some amazing science skip to the two minute mark in this video. I think it explains how long the universe will be in existence: LINK
I don’t think God snapped his fingers to create a universe where We will only be here for a short period of time. Professor Cox and others believe that The arrow of time has created a bright window in the Universe’s adolescence during which life is possible, but it’s a window that won’t stay open for long. As a fraction of the lifespan of the Universe, as measured from it’s beginning to the evaporation of the last black hole, life as we know it is only possible for one-thousandth of a billion billion billionth, billion billion billionth, billion billion billionth, of a per cent.
MIND BLOWN
Posted on 5/4/20 at 6:04 pm to MeridianDog
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The current expansion came from a big bang, and the future contraction will come from gravity
This is not true. The expansion is speeding up. You should check out "red shift" and how it applies to galaxies that are far away from us.
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The noise from the last one (there were likely ones before it) is detectable, so is the expansion
The big bang did not make a noise. Sound cannot travel in a vacuum and it was just energy, so nothing to transmit sound waves. We can detect the cosmic background radiation, which leftover from the big bang.
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At some point the expansion will begin to slow and then the contraction or compression of this latest big bang cycle will begin.
That's not what the latest science says. There is actually a point within our observable universe beyond which we could never reach even if we traveled at the speed of light for an infinite length of time. Because the space is expanding faster than the speed of light.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:39 am to Trout Bandit
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It sure wasn't Jesus.
Don't understand the downvotes. Jesus wasn't around until a little over 2000 years ago. He's technically stating a fact. God is not Jesus and Jesus is not God.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:46 am to oneandonlypost
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I went to church several years with Donald Lydenbell-Bell before he died.
He was responsible for discovering black holes.
We discussed these issues at great length during the fellowship hour. He was a really nice gentleman and kind to my son in answering such questions.
ummm.... no.... heard some stupid things here, but this beats it all
apparently you've not heard of Albert Einstein or Karl Schwarzschild. The existence of Black Holes had become firmly evident in science by 1915 and 1916... two decades before that dude was even born...
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:00 am to BigB0882
quote:Oh look, another thread where atheists talk down to people who have faith in their religion.
Ignorance is bliss.
That's original.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:54 am to Darth_Vader
I believe this universe is not the first universe. I also believe that the big bang will happen again.
Black holes will form, join other black holes, become stronger to the point that the universe stops expanding and begins contracting.
A massive ever growing black hole will become the very center of the universe. Eventually, when it has consumed enough (or all)....matter will explode out the other side of the space/time continuum in another big bang.....a new universe is born.
The matter consumed by a black hole has to go somewhere. When enough passes through an Event Horizon I have to believe that the space time fabric has to rip and all that energy and matter explode through the other side.
Black holes will form, join other black holes, become stronger to the point that the universe stops expanding and begins contracting.
A massive ever growing black hole will become the very center of the universe. Eventually, when it has consumed enough (or all)....matter will explode out the other side of the space/time continuum in another big bang.....a new universe is born.
The matter consumed by a black hole has to go somewhere. When enough passes through an Event Horizon I have to believe that the space time fabric has to rip and all that energy and matter explode through the other side.
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