re: How did Maryland and Delaware escape the South’s cultural orbit?

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Ignoring the obvious criticism of these laws’ inherent racism, it’s always hilarious just how untenable they are. A) under “one drop” criteria, almost no one is purely white b) eventually, if strictly carried as rigidly as possible, on a long enough timeline, it would lead to inbreeding depression in white people

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WTf is "West South Central"

I love the "inbreeding depression" part. How many white people were there in the USA when miscegenation laws finally came off the books- maybe 150,000,000 minimum? We're not talking about a backwoods puppy mill or rabbit brood here.

West Virginia is not and never has been southern. The several counties that constitute the state seceded from the state of Virginia in 1863 and remained part of the Union. They were then granted statehood by the federal government. One problem here though. If it was illegal for Virginia to secede from the Union, then constitutionally (and it’s even written in the constitution) West Virginia could not legally be made a state since those counties had no authority to secede from Virginia.

The confederacy was never recognized as a nation by the Union states, and member states of the Confederacy were labeled “states in rebellion.” If this is the case, then West Virginia cannot legally and constitutionally hold the legal standing of state. But, if West Virginia is considered a state because of Virginia’s secession from the Union, then it must be admitted that the Confederacy was indeed a legal entity, separate and apart from the United States. This, the United States invaded and conducted a war against a sovereign nation in order to subdue that nation and acquire its territory.

It’s an interesting mental exercise to justify the existence of West Virginia as a state.

As for Maryland… It was a slave state and would have seceded from the Union as well. However, federal troops were dispatched to Ft McHenry near Baltimore where they turned the guns and cannons from Chesapeake bay toward the city of Baltimore and threatened to destroy it if Maryland seceded.

That wretched hive of scum and villainy known as Washington, D.C. has been out of control in its quest to usurp power and authority from the states and the people for a hell of a lot longer than most people realize or care to admit.

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(The laws actually “came off the books” in practice in the late 60s in a SCOTUS case. They only remained on the books in the respective states for 30 more years as unenforceable statutes.)

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The Loving case ended the practices but they kept the laws around for wishful thinking.

They were never considered full blown Southern.
You had Deep South (SC, GA, AR,LA, MS, AL, FL), Upper South (VA, NC, TN), border states (KY, MO, WV,MD, DE), and TX (kind of its own shite).
Of the border states, MD and DE are the least Southern and always were. More considered MidAtlantic states now.

Lived in Richmond a few years ago and it had the feel of a southern town to me.

Delaware White trash.

I’d believe it seeing Hunter Biden. Where is he anyway?

Up until last year, Maryland's state song was an anti-Lincoln song. During the Civil War, Baltimore was one of the most secesh cities in the country.

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Actually you were wrong. slavery started in North America thousands of years before the first cracker rolled off the boat and shortly after folks wandered across the land bridge but that is not what is generally discussed as 'Slavery", seems everyone but you understands that.

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If that's not what is being discussed, why bring it up, dipshit?