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re: How did Alimony actually become a thing ?
Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:23 pm to Your QB1
Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:23 pm to Your QB1
I do find it ironic that feminists over the years have protested many things they think are unequal toward women, but have never said a word about alimony. I mean, if you want equality, then you should I want equality in all aspects, not just those that benefit you.
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:43 pm to Your QB1
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Yes. Many states have alimony for life if marriage is 10 years or more.
Connecticut, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Vermont, and West Virginia are the only states with permanent alimony.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:47 pm to Your QB1
Imagine defending the way men get treated in divorces. Absolutely disgusting
Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:54 pm to Your QB1
Women used to not work. Some still don’t, but some do though.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:55 pm to Darth_Vader
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I mean, if you want equality, then you should I want equality in all aspects, not just those that benefit you.
Agreed.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:49 am to Your QB1
If the man is the cause of the break-up, he should pay.
If its the woman, she gets nothing.
If its the woman, she gets nothing.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 6:25 am to SallysHuman
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Obergefell (sp?)
It takes less time to google, copy & paste than it does to type 2 parentheses and a question mark.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 6:27 am to Rex Feral
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takes less time to google, copy & paste than it does to type 2 parentheses and a question mark.
Fine.
Turns out I spelt it rite afteryall.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 6:47 am to Your QB1
As outlined in some cases above alimony is a necessity in some cases.
Worst alimony story I have heard:
College buddy I moved to AZ with from WI meets a girl attending ASU. They eventually marry and have three children. He does very well in the insurance industry and they relocate to SoCal. He was constantly bragging to me that his wife doesn't have to work.
This is his version only and I can only go by what he tells me but after 16 years of marriage he suspects infidelity on her part and a PI confirms she was stepping out with the water polo coach at USC. He purchases a $18m beach house in Hermosa Beach and her and the kids stay in their $8m home in Palos Verdes. They also own a $3m home in Scottsdale. She hires the divorce attorney who represented Britney Spears in her first divorce and he hires another high-powered LA divorce attorney. His attorney suggests giving her the Palos Verdes home and cash in addition to $35K/monthly in combined alimony/child support. Her attorney says "dig deeper" and asks for the Palos Verdes home, $7m cash and $55K/monthly for 10 years. I never did find out the final payout and he passed at age 48 not long after the divorce was finalized. He stated one of his biggest regrets was not making her work even a part-time job after the kids were older and in school as they had a live-in nanny and a live-in chef and she had too much time on her hands. If even part of his story is true that was a staggering payout.
EDIT: Just looked up the Hermosa Beach beach house (pic below) and it's listed for sale at $13M. He bought it in 2010, I believe.
Worst alimony story I have heard:
College buddy I moved to AZ with from WI meets a girl attending ASU. They eventually marry and have three children. He does very well in the insurance industry and they relocate to SoCal. He was constantly bragging to me that his wife doesn't have to work.
This is his version only and I can only go by what he tells me but after 16 years of marriage he suspects infidelity on her part and a PI confirms she was stepping out with the water polo coach at USC. He purchases a $18m beach house in Hermosa Beach and her and the kids stay in their $8m home in Palos Verdes. They also own a $3m home in Scottsdale. She hires the divorce attorney who represented Britney Spears in her first divorce and he hires another high-powered LA divorce attorney. His attorney suggests giving her the Palos Verdes home and cash in addition to $35K/monthly in combined alimony/child support. Her attorney says "dig deeper" and asks for the Palos Verdes home, $7m cash and $55K/monthly for 10 years. I never did find out the final payout and he passed at age 48 not long after the divorce was finalized. He stated one of his biggest regrets was not making her work even a part-time job after the kids were older and in school as they had a live-in nanny and a live-in chef and she had too much time on her hands. If even part of his story is true that was a staggering payout.
EDIT: Just looked up the Hermosa Beach beach house (pic below) and it's listed for sale at $13M. He bought it in 2010, I believe.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 6:52 am
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:03 am to SallysHuman
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Fine.
Turns out I spelt it rite afteryall.
Always trust your instincts. No one one here can spell it, either, so you could have put whatever you wanted.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:06 am to Rex Feral
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Always trust your instincts.
I have rotten instincts with anything other than my children.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:50 am to jizzle6609
It has nothing to do with pulling out. It’s not child support, it’s Alimony. You can pay Alimony to someone that you’ve never had kids with.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:10 am to Your QB1
as someone in a generally pretty bad marriage who weighs the options of divorce almost daily, i will acknowledge that men only have men to blame for this. yes, the system is absolutely biased in favor of women now, but that is because men of our fathers and grandfathers generations ran around on good women and then left them high and dry for younger women.
so yeah, it's a fricked up system now, and it is in dire need of updating, but let's not act like men of previous generations were saints and these evil conniving women just developed this system out of thin air.
so yeah, it's a fricked up system now, and it is in dire need of updating, but let's not act like men of previous generations were saints and these evil conniving women just developed this system out of thin air.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:13 am to Sam Quint
in a similar vein and, not to hijack the thread, my wife routinely gets bent out of shape thinking about non working spouses (women) receiving SS benefits at retirement age, having never contributed little if anything into the system.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:14 am to Your QB1
Probably came about back when women didn't work and the man was the one working to support the family.
Man leaves, woman has no means of support.
Not saying i agree or disagree ,just a guess.
Man leaves, woman has no means of support.
Not saying i agree or disagree ,just a guess.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:15 am to Jmcc64
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in a similar vein and, not to hijack the thread, my wife routinely gets bent out of shape thinking about non working spouses (women) receiving SS benefits at retirement age, having never contributed little if anything into the system.
i guess the logic is that they supported the working spouse who contributed to the system.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:20 am to Sam Quint
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i guess the logic is that they supported the working spouse who contributed to the system.
Exactly.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:23 am to jclem11
quote:that’s working out really well huh
so she does not become a ward of the state that depends on welfare / food stamps to survive.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:26 am to Your QB1
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Had to be a bunch of women that came up with that law.
It was devised back in the day, prior to birth control pills, when women staid home and cooked, cleaned, and took care of the kids.
Dependable men worked and paid the Bills.
Alimony was necessary for scum bags who married got the wife pregnant then left her.
I had an Aunt who married, got pregnant and he left her. Once she gave birth to a Son, the deadbeat came back. Got her pregnant again, he left her again, she had a daughter. Her Mother, my Grandmother, moved in and took care of the two children, while she worked at a Bakery, to support the family.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:31 am to Jmcc64
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in a similar vein and, not to hijack the thread, my wife routinely gets bent out of shape thinking about non working spouses (women) receiving SS benefits at retirement age, having never contributed little if anything into the system.
My Grandmother for example stayed home and raised 2 kids while my Grandfather worked 2-3 jobs until he reached retirement age. Then he passed in his 70s after he had retired.
I don't have an issue with her drawing SS and to be honest, its not much. We all help supplement her living at this point.
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