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re: How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:30 pm to RedHawk
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:30 pm to RedHawk
quote:Interesting point. Since we often hear that any restrictions would only inconvenience the law-abiding, I wonder how many folks get ticketed for hunting without a plug? For hunting with more than three rounds in their rifle?
I've often wondered why in the heck you need to put a plug in a shotgun to limit you to three shells just to go duck hunting, but there is not a single limit for magazine restrictions for rifles or pistols.
Also worth pointing out that you have to have a background check to buy a gun from a licensed dealer but you can breed all the kids you want, no questions asked.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:32 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Nope. Republicans haven't proposed anything either.
There's your problem, you're a partisan hack.
quote:Yep. That's why I said if we don't want to be barbaric and "accept childeren being murdered" we should just lock everyone in their house. You know... so we wouldn't be barbaric.
BTW, once the schools are all locked up, what are you going to do about all those soft school busses full of children? There will always be soft targets.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:34 pm to HarryBalzack
quote:We need common-sense penis control now more than ever.
Also worth pointing out that you have to have a background check to buy a gun from a licensed dealer but you can breed all the kids you want, no questions asked.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:34 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
You're presuming that "society" is somehow going to change the actions of a determined, motivated, mentally ill, madman. That premise is weak at best. But even accepting it does not equal acceptance of killing children.
Actually, it kind of does. If you're not willing to do what it takes to stop it, you're accepting it. And what have we done about it since Columbine?
quote:
By your logic every crime is deemed acceptable because society hasn't stopped it.
Not really every crime, but we Americans have come to accept a level of crime that just isn't acceptable in other developed, more civilized nations. We want to pretend that incarcerating people will dissuade others from committing the same crimes - in spite of the years of evidence we have, and all the incarcerated people, to prove the contrary. But we continue to throw people in jail pretending it will solve the problem.
Why are we so criminal? Why do we continue to accept these levels of criminality?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:35 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
All I'm saying is that since nothing has changed since Columbine, I don't expect anything will change after Uvalde, or the proceeding mass murders of children.
Yep, nobody here wants to look in the mirror. I think we can safely say that every major issue in this country is complex, and needs a multiple pronged approach to a solution.
Unfortunately, this country is divided on damn near everything, and nobody wants to be the first to budge on an issue, because it’s perceived as giving up, or a sign of weakness, or the fear of a slippery-slope. Some of those feelings are rooted in actual events.
Again I say…people will have to have faith in a plan, a solution, and will need to compromise on some hot topics. I don’t see it happening though.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:36 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Nah.
Actually, it kind of does.
quote:Why do you support anal rape of children? You haven't stopped it. Clearly, you are like child molestation.
If you're not willing to do what it takes to stop it, you're accepting it
quote:Yea. Just the ones you don't want want to held responsible for. Got it.
Not really every crime
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:37 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
we should just lock everyone in their house
We can't do that because of individual liberties.
So we can't remove all the guns. We can't harden all the targets. And we can't just lock everyone up. What's left?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:38 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:How barbaric.
We can't do that because of individual liberties.
quote:Blame WildTchoupitoulas for not stopping it?
So we can't remove all the guns. We can't harden all the targets. And we can't just lock everyone up. What's left?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:39 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
NO ONE has come up with the solutions
We need more inpatient mental health facilities in a big way. Time after time, we hear of parents begging for help for their child, and often the shooter tells people in advance he's going to do it. He likely wants to be stopped, kind of like threatening suicide.
My children have a suicide-prevention hotline number on the back of their school id's. Maybe kids need a number to be able to anonymously report suspicious people at school or what they saw/heard on social media or online.
Very rarely are people just completely surprised that a person carried out an attack.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:39 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:In this scenario, the penis is the firearm and the vag is the FFL dealer, right?
We need common-sense penis control now more than ever.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:43 pm to HarryBalzack
quote:
In this scenario, the penis is the firearm and the vag is the FFL dealer, right?
talk about draconian regulation.Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:44 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
Why do you support anal rape of children?
So you think I' won't notice you replacing the word "accept" with the word, "support"?
You're better than that.
I'm afraid that as long as well allow priests near our children, we'll have to accept (not "support"
) a certain level of anal rape. But at least people have actually tried to solve the problem of priests raping children. That means they don't accept it. What has anyone done to solve the problem of these mass murders?
quote:
Yea. Just the ones you don't want want to held responsible for. Got it.
Now you're just getting lazy. That's okay, I'm getting a bit ridiculous myself.
BUT, at least people are actively trying to reduce other crimes. We can't even TALK about how to reduce these school shootings. Much like how we can't talk about all the murderous young black men in so many of our cities. That's another problem of barbarity that will have to wait for another thread on another day.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:46 pm to Tiger1242
Keeping the school doors locked seems like a good start.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:47 pm to Tiger1242
With BLM riots
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:47 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
We can't even TALK about how to reduce these school shootings. Much like how we can't talk about all the murderous young black men in so many of our cities.
It’s all the same problem - shitty parents and mental illness - whether the mental illness comes from shitty parenting or shitty parents come from having mental illness - who knows.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:48 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
Blame WildTchoupitoulas for not stopping it?
How is that not accepting it? That's pretty much what we've been doing with school shootings since Columbine, blame someone else, forget about it, and go on with our lives until the next school shooting, then start the cycle all over again. It's obviously not a solution.
quote:
How barbaric.
Indeed.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:48 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Wasn't intentional. But it doesn't matter. You accept child molesters. Better?
So you think I' won't notice you replacing the word "accept" with the word, "support"?
quote:
You're better than that
I am. But I'm using your "logic". quote:Na. Not by your definintion. For example murder law hasn't been change in LA since 2015. Clearly, we just accept murder.
BUT, at least people are actively trying to reduce other crimes.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:49 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:
It’s all the same problem - shitty parents and mental illness
Why do we have shittier parents and crazier people than everybody else?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:53 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
For example murder law hasn't been change in LA since 2015. Clearly, we just accept murder.
How long has the US had the highest murder rate among developed countries?
Uh, yeah, we pretty much do accept it. It's part of the compromise we make for individual liberties.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:54 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
Why do we have shittier parents and crazier people than everybody else?
We don’t. But it’s all we know. Our media focuses on our ‘problems.’ So that’s all we hear. There are many, many school shootings in Honduras we don’t hear about.
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