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re: How are farmers doing right now?

Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8079 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:17 pm to
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If their cost are up they should sell higher to offset the costs.


They don’t get to name their price when they show up at the grain elevator.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
90668 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:18 pm to
Trump will bail them out again. They've already had a ton of debt forgiven.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
4024 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:20 pm to
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Every farmer I know is loaded.


Loaded with debt…



…ask me how I know.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17600 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:20 pm to
Cotton and rice are really bad. If you are farming those, going to be really rough. Really bad.

Corn and beans are bad but not as bad as the above.

Peanuts and pecans are really good this year.

Haven't been looking in to cane but it appears they are expecting a good harvest but the market has been up and down.
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 3:21 pm
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9847 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:22 pm to
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Trump will bail them out again.


Just the other day he committed $15B to farmer relief.



So just to clear this up, we lost our biggest soy bean customer via a self-inflicted tariff/trade war and are now going to pay farmers $15B of taxpayer money to make it up to them. Just want to be sure everyone with their "I voted for this" bullshite understands exactly what is going on here.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71915 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:23 pm to
Well, Donald is preparing to give them billions of dollars to help them stay afloat. So, there's that.
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 3:24 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17600 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:25 pm to
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If their cost are up they should sell higher to offset the costs.


When you deal in commodities, it doesn't really work like that. It is important to be good at timing markets and hedging.

Been pleading with farmers for years to work on hedging and do a better job of marketing. That is why they get in trouble. A lot of farmers could have hedged against the cotton and rice prices but a lot of them just don't believe in it and will tell you, nah, I always do better doing it my way. They say that until they are in trouble. Same with marketing, they always think prices are going to go higher and then they get bit in the arse when its too late.

Love farmers, but they can be hard headed as hell.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39788 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:26 pm to
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mmmmmbeeer


Idiot
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9847 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Been pleading with farmers for years to work on hedging and do a better job of marketing. That is why they get in trouble. A lot of farmers could have hedged against the cotton and rice prices but a lot of them just don't believe in it and will tell you, nah, I always do better doing it my way. They say that until they are in trouble. Same with marketing, they always think prices are going to go higher and then they get bit in the arse when its too late.


Diversify to another crop no one will buy because they have no interest in trading with us due to tariffs?

Beef prices are through the roof because of this dumb trade shite, too. Brazilian beef is no longer making it to the US.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17600 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:31 pm to
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Diversify to another crop no one will buy because they have no interest in trading with us due to tariffs?


No, hedging like investment instruments. Set caps and floors on prices, stuff like that.
Posted by White Bear
OPINIONS & A-HOLES
Member since Jul 2014
17271 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:34 pm to
They’re picking cotton and cutting beans today, Cletus.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39788 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:38 pm to
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Beef prices are through the roof because of this dumb trade shite, too. Brazilian beef is no longer making it to the US.


Nope. You don't know what you are talking about.

Your TDS is not letting you see straight. I will never understand why yall hate Trump so much. It's a sickness.
Posted by BillysIsland
Member since Aug 2025
1308 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:41 pm to
They are doing bad. Don't worry though the government will bail them out with tax payer money. Just had to bail out Argentina first.

The art of the deal sons!
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71915 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:46 pm to
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Diversify to another crop no one will buy because they have no interest in trading with us due to tariffs?

You at least have a point on the soybean issue.

quote:

Beef prices are through the roof because of this dumb trade shite, too. Brazilian beef is no longer making it to the US.

You need to do more studying on this one.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
8291 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:47 pm to
Beef prices are very high now and likely to stay high until the herd is rebuilt and/or we start importing beef from Brazil and Argentina.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41512 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:50 pm to
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Cows are through the roof right now.


Through a cotton house roof?

Posted by White Bear
OPINIONS & A-HOLES
Member since Jul 2014
17271 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:54 pm to
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When you deal in commodities, it doesn't really work like that. It is important to be good at timing markets and hedging. Been pleading with farmers for years to work on hedging and do a better job of marketing. That is why they get in trouble. A lot of farmers could have hedged against the cotton and rice prices but a lot of them just don't believe in it and will tell you, nah, I always do better doing it my way. They say that until they are in trouble. Same with marketing, they always think prices are going to go higher and then they get bit in the arse when it’s too late. Love farmers, but they can be hard headed as hell.
You make it sound like hedging and fwd selling has no risk. A proverbial win-win.
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 3:55 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30041 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:55 pm to
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I will never understand why yall hate Trump so much. It's a sickness.


If hating politicians is an illness, then 90% of the world suffers from it, and the percentage of carriers is an order of magnitude greater on TD.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39788 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:58 pm to
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You at least have a point on the soybean issue.


No he doesn't.

The world had record production and China is saturated with soybeans. They couldn't buy more if they wanted to. Tariffs have little, if anything to do with it. It's a global market and our farmers chose the wrong crop this cycle.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39788 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:02 pm to
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Beef prices are very high now and likely to stay high until the herd is rebuilt and/or we start importing beef from Brazil and Argentina.


The droughts caused our largest ranchers to liquidate herds. It will cycle back in a few years. Beef is a 7 year cycle. Everyone with at 40 acres is trying to start a herd right now. We've seen this before.
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