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re: Houston Fire Department responding to fire at Chinese Consulate ordered closed by US

Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:47 am to
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27513 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:47 am to
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The US destroyed documents before losing embassies in Tehran and Saigon.

Getting rid of your sensitive and shady shite seems like standard operating procedure.

China's spy documents on the Houston area would make for fun reading though.


There was a very interesting read about Russia doing osmething similar when we closed their consulate in SF. Honestly, it was a good thing if anyone wants to read this through.

LINK

In short, SF is a good area for the Russians because of the opportunity to steal/spy on tech coming out of Silicon Valley plus there are some DoE offices nearby. It's also believed that the Russians were trying to mark and track the underground communication nodes in the area.

Like I said long - but very interesting. And as soon as it was closed there were pillars of smoke coming out of the building as well.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17356 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:48 am to
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They have been stealing for decades.



Very little of what China has wasn't based on stolen IP. They were behind because of their bout with communism and didn't see a way to catch up without stealing.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33924 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:52 am to
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Probably burning documents and hard drives containing intellectual property from Exxon, Halliburton, Chevron, etc...
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:59 am to
Were they ordered closed before or after they were burning documents. From the article I got the impression they were ordered closed because they were burning the documents.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 9:54 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41720 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:05 am to
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The US destroyed documents before losing embassies in Tehran and Saigon.

Getting rid of your sensitive and shady shite seems like standard operating procedure.


I can't tell with the crappy reporting... did the US order the consulate closed, and then the Chinese started burning docs?

Or did the Chinese start burning docs, and then the US ordered the consulate closed?

If it's the first, your thought makes sense. If it's the second, I wonder if the firemen saw some shady stuff in there.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41720 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:07 am to
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I think a moratorium on student visas from China is in order. Send them back for a few years, or until China has demonstrated that it can be trusted with intellectual property.



There are a lot of Chinese professors and professionals working in Houston, in addition to all the students.

Curious how the big companies and universities feel about this. Surely the O&G majors can't be happy their IP is being stolen, right? Yet they continue to hire Chinese nationals.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75988 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:10 am to
my local ABC news station is scrambling to turn this into a Trump vs China thing and hasn't mentioned why the consulate is on fire or the pictures of documents being burnt in the courtyard. nope, just more "this is another example of racism in America" propaganda.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2822 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:19 am to
I work in Houston oil & gas for a fairly small company with a niche technology. At a trade show a few years ago, a random Chinese person (no company affiliation) asked if they could rent one of our tools for a couple of months. We said no as we do not rent the tools.

A couple of years later, we hired a young Chinese woman (recent college graduate from a US university). She seems very good at her job and is paid fairly low. I’ve started to wonder in recent months if she’s a spy (not really but more of a young never know’).



Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63771 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:29 am to
At the shows like Urtec and HFTC there are always such a steady stream of random Chinese businessmen rolling around.

The easiest way to see just how many there are is head to the smoking area outside. They’re always gathered together ripping cigs
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17356 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:29 am to
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Where they ordered closed before or after they were burning documents. From the article I got the impression they were ordered closed because they were burning the documents.



They were ordered closed over night. By 3AM they were destroying evidence.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24526 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:43 am to
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I think a moratorium on student visas from China is in order. Send them back for a few years, or until China has demonstrated that it can be trusted with intellectual property.

quote:

There are a lot of Chinese professors and professionals working in Houston, in addition to all the students.

Wasn't there a professor at Texas A&M who got busted receiving payments from the CCP? Seems as though I remember a story about that but am fuzzy on the details as to what the payments were for and why it was a big deal.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 9:46 am
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:54 am to
Article says the following:

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HPD said they began receiving reports that documents were being burned just after 8 p.m. at 3417 Montrose Boulevard where the consulate is located.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36778 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:56 am to
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China's spy documents on the Houston area would make for fun reading though.


They were behind the Astros WS
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