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re: Houston Drug dealing attemped cop killers didn’t do anything update:murder charged to cop

Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:06 am to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:06 am to
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and that's usually to prevent evidence from being disposed of by catching the perps off guard



If you can flush the amount of evidence in the time it takes to bust in the house you don't have enough drugs for a no knock warrant. You're full of shite
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:11 am to
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Are you really this ignorant? Your hatred of police is comical


I don't hate the cops skuzz.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:18 am to
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These guys had cocaine and immediate access to loaded guns, and used them against police. The chances of them being completely innocent here are pretty slim.



The ends don't justify the means. Those chances are slim because undercover cops bought heroin there, not because they found unrelated drugs after the fact.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:23 am to
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The ends don't justify the means. Those chances are slim because undercover cops bought heroin there, not because they found unrelated drugs after the fact



Also undercover didn't buy drugs. A confidential informant supposedly bought drugs. Two people are dead you better know what the frick you're talking about and the police chief has already contradicted himself too many times. I thought that they were selling black tar. What's up with the cocaine.

Did the narcs not have a handy bag of tar to throw down?

This all could've been substantiated if they wouldn't have turned their personal cameras off.
Posted by xxGEAUXxx
minneapolis
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:30 am to
Some departments have a policy not test white powder if it appears to fentanyl. So, more then likely it’s that and heroin is commonly associated with it.
Posted by jlntiger
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:42 am to
There is to much that doesn’t add up . Plus if an officer didn’t buy drugs at the house I have major issues with this . We all know informants are prone to make stuff up
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:43 am to
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A confidential informant supposedly bought drugs.


Oh wow.

This is yikes all around.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:11 am to
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Also undercover didn't buy drugs. A confidential informant supposedly bought drugs.

they wouldn't have turned their personal cameras off.


both of those are very problamatic

At the very least both whomever instructed the cameras to be turned off and those who complied should be unemployed.

Law Enforcement bears a lot of responsibility is the current state of mistrust by the public and these issues along with a well demonstrated propensity to lie to cover for each other does not help matters.
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:16 am to
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The ends don't justify the means. Those chances are slim because undercover cops bought heroin there, not because they found unrelated drugs after the fac


Hindsight is 20/20 though. Again I say, how many of those cops wanted to get shot that day? Everyone sitting on the sidelines is acting like the cops escaped unscathed and this thing was just bad for the 2 dead. Its a clusterfrick on multiple accords, no one wanted it to go down like this. I'm guessing most of the time or at least often enough these sort of raids do justify the means. You can't simply state if they are not 100% effective we shouldn't do them, its not tv that's an absurd standard.

Is it not stated there were complaints to the police THEN they sent in an UC to buy? That's pretty damning evidence that shite is going down in the house. Sure an undercover cop is better than an informant, but we don't know all the circumstances.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:12 pm to
So now it comes out the cops didn't even buy drugs from the house.

What a joke

LINK

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A confidential informant didn't buy drugs at the southeast Houston home where an investigation turned into a deadly shootout with police last month, according to a new search warrant. That contradicts information used to get the no-knock search warrant, which said that a confidential informant bought heroin at the house the day before the drug raid. The raid happened on Jan. 28. Rhogena Nicholas, 58, and Dennis Tuttle, 59, were both killed in the raid at their home on 7815 Harding Street. Four HPD officers were shot and a fifth officer injured his knee.


Family is about to get PAID.

Art SJW Acevedo about to get his arse fired.
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:25 pm to
18 ounces does have a much better ring to it than a little over a pound
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:07 pm to
This looking worse and worse for HPD

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HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- A confidential informant didn't buy drugs at the southeast Houston home where an investigation turned into a deadly shootout with police last month, according to a new search warrant. That contradicts information used to get the no-knock search warrant, which said that a confidential informant bought heroin at the house the day before the drug raid. The raid happened on Jan. 28.

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He returned to Goines with a brown powder substance, telling him that it was called "boy," which is slang for heroin. The confidential informant also said the substance he allegedly bought at the home was packed in a large quantity of plastic baggies. He told Goines that he saw a weapon, which appeared to be a 9mm handgun, as he was buying the suspected drugs. After the shooting, police went to Goines to get the informant's name. The informant told investigators he or she did not recognize the Harding Street home or Tuttle.


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Investigators returned to Goines for the names of more informants, who had all worked for Goines in the past. They all denied making a buy for Goines at the home. They also denied ever buying drugs from Nicholas or Tuttle.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:13 pm to
great
googily
moogily
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:17 pm to
Heads might roll over this.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58859 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:18 pm to
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Investigators returned to Goines for the names of more informants, who had all worked for Goines in the past. They all denied making a buy for Goines at the home. They also denied ever buying drugs from Nicholas or Tuttle.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:20 pm to
that cop who got the warrant is going to have to go to jail

how did he have H in his car if no CI bought it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:23 pm to
yeah it sounds like Fuzzy Dunlop is a CI for HPD
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:26 pm to
It took me years to figure out why that was the CI's name



Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:28 pm to
Woah
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