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Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:22 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:
we'll be finding out about what type of fetish porn our senators and reps search Google for
They will exclude themselves from this.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:28 pm to J Murdah
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I e-mailed my local representative last week. I doubt he read it. I also called Graves' office and left a message. The young intern who answered didn't seem to care much. He didn't ask for my name and number, yet said he would call me back. Nice little call screening they have going.
Every person I have ever talked to or read from that works/worked in a congressional office says that a constant barrage of phone calls are the way to go. They can just ignore letters and email but their phone lines being tied up all day are enough to get them to at least look at whatever it is people are mad at.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:31 pm to DaTroof
Are they going to use the extra money to cut my internet bill?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:35 pm to DaTroof
troll trace coming to life
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:37 pm to chryso
fricking POS congress.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 3:51 pm to DaTroof
I want to play devil's advocate for a second given that most of the board seems to be in instant agreement on this. And it's not that I think this bill is necessarily a good idea, but I at least want to consider the other side of the coin.
So, my question is, what's the difference between an ISP selling your browsing info and, say, Facebook selling your personal info?
Don't get me wrong, I realize that this bill could set the stage for a ton of negative outcomes. But I also have trouble arguing against the theory that companies should be outlawed from selling data. In this day and age, data is a resource, and a damn valuable one. So why shouldn't a private company be allowed to maximize the value of their resources?
Data acquisition and analysis is a huge industry (it's the number 1 reason that companies like Facebook and Google are so profitable). Why shouldn't ISPs be allowed to participate in that market using the data that you freely choose to turn over to them in exchange for their service?
And if enough people are sufficiently outraged at this bill, and if free market principles hold, what stops a certain ISP from carving out a niche position on the market by pledging to keep all browsing info private? Surely the market can better evaluate the value of your browsing history than the government, no?
So, my question is, what's the difference between an ISP selling your browsing info and, say, Facebook selling your personal info?
Don't get me wrong, I realize that this bill could set the stage for a ton of negative outcomes. But I also have trouble arguing against the theory that companies should be outlawed from selling data. In this day and age, data is a resource, and a damn valuable one. So why shouldn't a private company be allowed to maximize the value of their resources?
Data acquisition and analysis is a huge industry (it's the number 1 reason that companies like Facebook and Google are so profitable). Why shouldn't ISPs be allowed to participate in that market using the data that you freely choose to turn over to them in exchange for their service?
And if enough people are sufficiently outraged at this bill, and if free market principles hold, what stops a certain ISP from carving out a niche position on the market by pledging to keep all browsing info private? Surely the market can better evaluate the value of your browsing history than the government, no?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 3:54 pm to funnystuff
quote:Simple, because you can choose not to use Google or Facebook. Being that many people don't have the option to choose a different ISP in most areas, we are stuck with what we have and are pretty much at their mercy.
use Could Vote Today to Let ISPs Sell Your Internet History
I want to play devil's advocate for a second given that most of the board seems to be in instant agreement on this. And it's not that I think this bill is necessarily a good idea, but I at least want to consider the other side of the coin.
So, my question is, what's the difference between an ISP selling your browsing info and, say, Facebook selling your personal info?
Don't get me wrong, I realize that this bill could set the stage for a ton of negative outcomes. But I also have trouble arguing against the theory that companies should be outlawed from selling data. In this day and age, data is a resource, and a damn valuable one. So why shouldn't a private company be allowed to maximize the value of their resources?
Data acquisition and analysis is a huge industry (it's the number 1 reason that companies like Facebook and Google are so profitable). Why shouldn't ISPs be allowed to participate in that market using the data that you freely choose to turn over to them in exchange for their service?
And if enough people are sufficiently outraged at this bill, and if free market principles hold, what stops a certain ISP from carving out a niche position on the market by pledging to keep all browsing info private? Surely the market can better evaluate the value of your browsing history than the government, no?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 3:55 pm to funnystuff
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This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 10:12 am
Posted on 3/28/17 at 3:57 pm to TexasTiger39
I guess they will spin it as it will create jobs somehow.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 3:59 pm to DaTroof
As long as they don't give it to my wife..
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:00 pm to funnystuff
quote:Because the free market doesn't really apply when it comes to ISPs, they're practically quasi government entities. You can't just set up a cable company and start running wires all over the place.
And if enough people are sufficiently outraged at this bill, and if free market principles hold, what stops a certain ISP from carving out a niche position on the market by pledging to keep all browsing info private?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:17 pm to funnystuff
quote:
Surely the market can better evaluate the value of your browsing history than the government, no?
This is an incredibly moronic stance. This is how we wind up with the Coxs and Comcasts that collaborate to keep your cable and internet prices high and couldn't give a shite about fairness because they know there aren't many other options out there. When they collude and conspire at a very high level to stifle competition they know full well there aren't very many options and you are fricked with the only options they make available. This will be easily achieved with ISPs as people already only use a handful of them as it stands.
Lobbying has turned into legal bribery. Just because something is legal doesn't make it morally right or ethical. Remember this vote next time Senators Cassidy and Kennedy's asses come across your TV screen. They sold your arse down the river and they are hoping this quietly passes and doesn't stick to their names. We need to vote their asses out and show the next a-hole we send to Washington that his/her arse is next if she misrepresents us.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:38 pm to DaTroof
Link brah
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:51 pm to RJL2
Thats nonsense. I used the private tab so nothing can get through that impeccable line of security
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:53 pm to JetsetNuggs
Serious question... What's to keep our govt from just buying someone's internet history rather than getting a warrant?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 5:05 pm to NYNolaguy1
It's Over baws. Start browsing from a VPN.
Here's to hoping anon will start buying the search history of our politicians and reveal some dank shite.
However, they probably snuck some clause in there to keep theirs private.
Here's to hoping anon will start buying the search history of our politicians and reveal some dank shite.
However, they probably snuck some clause in there to keep theirs private.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 5:10 pm to DaTroof
I would email my congresswoman, but iunfortunately it's Marsha Blackburn.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 5:11 pm to J Murdah
Why would anyone vote for this w
Posted on 3/28/17 at 5:12 pm to Rebel
My legislators are all voting against it out of political expediency rather than beliefs.
They just vote against whatever the other party likes.
They just vote against whatever the other party likes.
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