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re: Hoover AL held emergency executive meeting. Protesters now outside Mayors house.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:30 pm to MrLarson
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:30 pm to MrLarson
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Jesse Jackson is going to do the eulogy.
I hear his eulogy in the voice of Green Eggs and Ham. Jesse is such a waste of tissue.
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:43 pm to beauchristopher
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I've tried to think about this for a while. I have no prediction on who to believe.. But I first questioned why would he have a gun out if he wasn't involved.. and be running away from the action.. Then, I try and put myself in his shoes. Many of us probably have no idea how we'd actually truly act in the same situation. We may like to believe we know how until it does. I could see how if I was in a public mall, and what was perceived as a "mass shooting" (I recognize it ended up not being) but guns shots and people panicking.. I may run away and at the same time brandish my weapon for possible protection in case I saw some other shooters at different locations in the mall. You have no idea what to expect in that situation.. Could be thinking it was a terror attack and they could be any where.. It upsets me that so often in the actual mass shootings (again I recognize this wasn't) that the killers often go away in handcuffs.. and aren't shot.. but then you have a guy running with a gun who is easily shot and even killed.. Frustrating.. and again, I'm not saying if he was or was not involved.
Fair post.
However, pretty sure all of this goes out of the window because people said when the police showed up, EJ was not complying with the officer(s) - not sure how true that is
If I were in his situation, as an innocent bystander with a concealed carry permit, when the police show up, I holster my weapon and follow instructions. Pretty simple
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:53 pm to Mr. Hangover
People also forget that early on, it was assumed to be a mass shooting. Not a street fight. The police will neutralize all perceived threats in this situation.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:54 pm to MsGarrison
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is the truth about to come out? Ferguson Part
Since Ferguson was based on lies and mass ignorance it's entirely likely to repeat here. No surprise you are cheering for that outcome of course.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:57 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Really sad and I'm sure there was a way around it, but I don't think this was intentionally racist.
Good point.
It’s weird to me.. I don’t really understand the cries about ‘racism’
I’m pretty sure the cop involved didn’t pull up and say ‘holy hell, this guy’s black and I have a good reason/excuse to shoot him so....’ BANG
Could it have been a bad decision to shoot because of poor judgment? Absolutely
Did he shoot this guy just because he was black? I highly doubt it
That’s why these situations and protests are so fricking stupid in my opinion
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:57 pm to Clames
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Since Ferguson was based on lies and mass ignorance it's entirely likely to repeat here.
If Obama had a son.......
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:18 pm to TheCaterpillar
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frick, you people are so hard to have a conversation with.
WHAT THE frick DO YOU MEAN "YOU PEOPLE"???
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:40 pm to fillmoregandt
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Police show up and shoot a Guy that had a gun. But he wasn’t the shooter. Now they protesting.
I'm sure he had it coming for some other misdeed in his past. Karma always shoots straight.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:47 pm to Clames
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Since Ferguson was based on lies and mass ignorance it's entirely likely to repeat here. No surprise you are cheering for that outcome of course.
Funny you say this, there was some info that came out today from a local guy who is a liberal and has a radio show.
He said there were 22 witnesses who claimed Michael Brown had his hands up and was shot. AG Holder, DJ, and FBI interviewed all of those witnesses, and in the final report, AG Holder claimed as fact, that all of them were lying or told to spread misinformation about the hands up bullshite.
This never got play, because before that info was 2 come out, Holder had a presser and put out the policing and targeting black motorist agenda fluff piece to push the michael brown lies to the back pages and gone.
So No juice box and peas
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:02 pm to Mr. Hangover
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However, pretty sure all of this goes out of the window because people said when the police showed up, EJ was not complying with the officer(s) - not sure how true that is
I didn't begin to hear this narrative until almost 2 days after the fact, and not until after the police started backtracking. From the very beginning, within an hour or two of this happening, I was hearing that were was no warning, no "drop your gun", just shoot on sight.
EJ also was not even close to the only shopper who brandished his gun as he was fleeing, it was mentioned in the very first alert before there were any other facts that several shoppers were seen exiting with guns drawn.
Its a shitty situation all around. Cop comes around the corner and sees a guy with a gun right by where there was a report of shots fired, kind of hard to blame him. At the same time, EJ doesn't deserve to be dead and its tragic. At this point I don't hold any anger towards the individual officer, but the anger should be directed towards the city, the law enforcement agencies handling this case, the galleria, and the media for the way they have all handled this.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:06 pm to MsGarrison
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He is one miserable frick. He attempted running for mayor of Birmingham but he failed miserably. So, what does he do...? Insults the current mayor. Goes into City Council meetings and degrades councilmen/women.. Casts out racist names (even to blacks).. Then this morning, as a local radio show is live streaming, he comments calling the black host a c0@n because he called the protesting stupid, which I agree it is. This guy has had a love for stirring up trouble in Birmingham. What makes this even worse, people gobble his rhetoric up. He calls everything racist and he is the biggest racist out there. He isnt fighting for justice.. He is trying to get himself on National TV, he loves himsel
His name wouldn’t happen to Gravy, would it?
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:17 pm to MsGarrison
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The one leading these protests is a local from Birmingham.
He is one miserable frick. He attempted running for mayor of Birmingham but he failed miserably. So, what does he do...? Insults the current mayor. Goes into City Council meetings and degrades councilmen/women.. Casts out racist names (even to blacks)..
The dude that looks like he's 14? I've never seen or heard of him til all this. I somehow recognize the dude with dreads that's been standing over his shoulder, but I cant put my finger on where from.
If I'm thinking of the same guy you're talking about, then yea the quotes I've read from him are very provocative. He'll start to make a decent statement, but then he'll start throwing in "these white people this" and "those white people that". It's just going to alienate more conservative white folks that would otherwise be supporting your cause.
They definitely need to find a new spokesman.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:27 pm to genuineLSUtiger
I’m local to Hoover and my high school classmates are blowing up my news feed. Here’s the latest
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Peaceful protest is supposed to make you uncomfortable. It inconveniences you. So maybe for 30 minutes or an hour or however long you are forced to look at it. If it was on the side of the road most people would just go "huh, look at that" and keep driving but if it takes you out of being a spectator and then having to deal with it, you pay attention. It makes you angry? Good, the protestors are angry too. Got places to be and people to see? Yeah they do (or did in the cases of surviving family members) too. What about ambulances? They are routed around protest. If you notice, every protest so far has been announced in advanced. If an ambulance driver gets stuck in it it's their own fault.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:28 pm to supadave3
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He is one miserable frick. He attempted running for mayor of Birmingham but he failed miserably. So, what does he do...? Insults the current mayor. Goes into City Council meetings and degrades councilmen/women.. Casts out racist names (even to blacks).. Then this morning, as a local radio show is live streaming, he comments calling the black host a c0@n because he called the protesting stupid, which I agree it is. This guy has had a love for stirring up trouble in Birmingham. What makes this even worse, people gobble his rhetoric up. He calls everything racist and he is the biggest racist out there. He isnt fighting for justice.. He is trying to get himself on National TV, he loves himsel
Sounds like Tariq Nasheed
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:41 pm to BowlJackson
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but the anger should be directed towards the city, the law enforcement agencies handling this case, the galleria, and the media for the way they have all handled this.
Or it could be directed at the person that did the shooting that caused all of this. Do you always kick the cat because the dog shite in the floor?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:01 pm to MrLarson
I would never own a cat and any dog I own is well trained and has regular access to the outside, so that would never be a problem for me.
Hoover officials apologize to EJ Bradford's family
Hoover officials apologize to EJ Bradford's family
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Hoover mayor Frank Brocato, Police Chief Nick Derzis, and City Councilman Derrick M. Murphy apologized to the family of E.J. Bradford, Jr., who was killed by a Hoover police officer at the Riverchase Galleria on Thanksgiving night, in a meeting Tuesday evening in a second-floor conference room at the Westin in downtown Birmingham.
The apology was for initially identifying Bradford as the shooter in a dispute that led to the wounding of 18-year-old Brian Wilson and 12-year-old Molly Davis, not for the subsequent police shooting of Bradford.
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“I think it went well with the mayor,” E.J. Bradford, Sr. said of the meeting. “He was very considerate. I saw the emotion in his face. He had to collect himself. He felt it in his heart.”
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“The mayor was shaking like a leaf,” said Jefferson County Commissioner Sheila Tyson, who attended and helped coordinate the meeting. “The family was crying; the mayor was about to cry; I was crying.”
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Bradford, Sr. said he “kind of” accepted the apology conveyed by Derzis. “Borderline,” is how he described it. “I know he has people to report to, including the mayor. I’ll let them work that out.”
The family is still incensed that the parents did not receive confirmation that it was their son that was killed until the father spoke with a Hoover Detective whom he knew at 4:53 a.m. Friday
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Bradford, Sr., who once worked for the Birmingham Police Department, said the family still wants to see all video of the deadly encounter between their son and the police, including mall and bodycam footage if it exists. He acknowledges the decision to release the video is in the hands of the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency, not with the city of Hoover.
“ALEA’s going to try to hold it and go through every angle; I give them that,” he said. “But pressure needs to be put on them to release it as soon as possible.”
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:17 pm to BowlJackson
What does any of that have to do with you saying anger should be pointed at the Galleria. What did they have to do with the shooting?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:37 pm to MrLarson
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What does any of that have to do with you saying anger should be pointed at the Galleria. What did they have to do with the shooting?
It doesn't, I'm just posting the latest update on everything. That article was posted an hour ago.
Only the first part of the post, before the link, is direct at you. I didn't want to make two posts and the world doesn't revolve around you, dawg.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:04 pm to baldona
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There was a shooting and the police shot a guy running from them with a gun. It was an unfortunate incident, but blaming them at this point is absurd.
The Poliboard tells me the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a gun.
Yet when the good guy with a gun is black the cops blast him, blame him, and then go "Oops, wrong guy! Our bad!"
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:42 pm to Dr RC
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Yet when the good guy with a gun is black the cops blast him, blame him, and then go "Oops, wrong guy! Our bad!"
Link???????? Nothing in what you posted is correct.
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