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re: Homeowners in Bluff Swamp are surrounded by flood water, and they are mad about it
Posted on 5/25/21 at 9:52 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 5/25/21 at 9:52 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The local governments in this state are atrocious.
No argument there.
A lot of what we are bickering about was because of a myriad of mistakes and oversights local (and state) governments made years ago. We are paying for it with higher insurance premiums, increased costs of development, and Louisiana's reduced competitiveness with its peers.
And it's not just drainage. It's everything that enables and justifies sprawl - from land use planning to our pathetic public schools.
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 9:54 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Where is the Army Corps Of Engineers on enforcing wetland conservation and mitigation? Go try to drain a designated wetland to plant crops and see what happens.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 9:55 am to loogaroo
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Go try to drain a designated wetland to plant crops and see what happens.
It happens all the time. I've seen cases in Louisiana and Mississippi where substantial portions of lakes silt up because of agriculture runoff. It ends up costing a fortune to fix too.
Houses start flooding and roads wash out but at least the cow's feet stay dry.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:15 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The original houses there are on land that absolutely did not historically flood.
Got some historical data on this? Most of the house in these flood plains don't look older than 30years old, most of south BR was developed around the same time.
The problem lies in manchac bayou. Nearly 18k acres of spanish lake/bluff swamp and everything south of I-10 flow in to one bayou.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:21 am to The Implication
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Nearly 18k acres of spanish lake/bluff swamp and everything south of I-10 flow in to one bayou.
And it’s a narrow, fairly shallow bayou with a lot of obstructions that never seem to be cleared.
There is no getting around the reality that there will eventually need to be a series of very expensive pumps to move water out of the swamp and into the Mississippi River ahead of major rain events so that it can accommodate this runoff without flooding so many homes.
But we can do a lot more when it comes to cleaning up these waterways. $37 billion state budget. Spend $20 million or so cleaning up Manchac and the lower Amite.
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:25 am to The Implication
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Got some historical data on this?
I know the people who live there.
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Most of the house in these flood plains don't look older than 30years old, most of south BR was developed around the same time.
I'm taking 50/60/70 years old. As far as I know, nearly all of the new stuff that isn't built up on a mountain is very susceptible to it and probably always would have been, even before alligator bayou road.
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The problem lies in manchac bayou
Absolutely, but how do you address that now? You really can't, without destroying some development or a real pumping solution.
Eta: and the real question is who pays for it? I dont think anybody is opposed to fixing it. Its paying for it thats the problem. Nobody feels like any of this is their fault. IMO, the developers and politicians who allowed all of this to proliferate a while back are at fault.
This post was edited on 5/25/21 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:49 am to goofball
Flood waters are racist this is a white neighborhood
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:14 am to goofball
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Homeowners in Bluff Swamp
There’s a hint
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:44 am to BuckyCheese
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I'm liking the garages.
Except for that being in a flood zone thing.
How much extra would it have cost during construction to raise the grade for the foundation pad by another 2 feet? Looks like 12-15" or so is all it would have needed.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 10:00 am to BuckyCheese
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I imagine land is pretty cheap in a swamp.
Bluff Road property isn't. I have a friend who lives next door to one of the houses pictured. The property wasn't cheap and he spent a fortune on dirt work before building.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 10:10 am to The Implication
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Don't build your house in a fricking swamp
Or on the river side of a levee (not here but happened in bossier city and Shreveport back in 2016)
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 10:11 am
Posted on 5/26/21 at 10:15 am to member12
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built within the last 10 years.
Couple in that second pic built in the last 3 yrs. The edge of the water is usually 100 ft behind those houses. Not like the edge is a qtr mile away.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 10:23 am to concrete_tiger
A house down the road from the photos was raised like 15-20 ft. It's fine but it's 4 ft deep under it.
Posted on 5/26/21 at 10:29 am to goofball
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But grand daddy said that it doesn't flood, and he's never wrong. SCIENCE
Goddamn, you are a stupid jackass
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:26 pm to goofball
But the land was super cheap……
Posted on 5/26/21 at 11:05 pm to sawtooth
I hate to make light of the situation since this talk got serious and all... but nobody’s going to reference the scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail where the guy talks about building the castle in the swamp? Would have been perfect a few pages ago.
“But the 3rd!!! Well it caught fire and then sank into the swamp”
“But the 3rd!!! Well it caught fire and then sank into the swamp”
Posted on 5/26/21 at 11:27 pm to Sao
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You never see this in Austin.
That’s bc the homeless are in the way
Posted on 5/27/21 at 12:37 am to EthicalHedonist
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Hard to tell about the property’s elevation in that second pic, but my dad always told me that generally I should never buy a home that was lower than the road.
saved me in 2016. House was just higher than the highway.
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