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re: Homeowner for the win
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:36 am to TigernMS12
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:36 am to TigernMS12
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but you cannot actually shoot a guy in this situation unless the burglar does something which would justify self-defense.
If I see someone walking out of my house with my $1200 TV, I am going to feel pretty justified to self-defend it.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:40 am to BamaFan70
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There is no doubt that I would shoot an intruder that was in my house. Unlike many bleeding hearts, I place zero value on a criminals life. They give up all rights to life when they break in a home.
Exactly. Back in the day, people knew what it meant to be a criminal and the consequences that came with it. Justice was typically served via an arse whoopin or a revolver.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:50 am to baybeefeetz
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The law is very clear they you are not (just because he broke in or stole stuff.
No, the law isn't. Maybe you should read some of those laws.
Some of you that think property isn't a good reason to use lethal force seem to forget that the criminal has already decided it's worth risking their life to get it. Carjacking is almost universally mentioned in CD and SYG laws.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 10:08 am to AndyCBR
Luckily only her side of the "Confrontation " can be told now!
Posted on 3/14/16 at 10:09 am to Paddyshack
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I see someone walking out of my house with my $1200 TV, I am going to feel pretty justified to self-defend it.
Which will cost more? Replacing the TV or the legal costs involved in the shooting?
Posted on 3/14/16 at 10:09 am to tigerswin03
How does this line
receive 10 upvotes & 0 downvotes, but this line
receives 5 upvotes & 3 downvotes???
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Btw more people need to shoot these animals then maybe they would think twice about stealing shite
receive 10 upvotes & 0 downvotes, but this line
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It SHOULD be legal to shoot a thief ANYWHERE on your property! Thin the thug herd.
receives 5 upvotes & 3 downvotes???
Posted on 3/14/16 at 10:10 am to BamaFan70
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“I don’t care if she have her gun license or any of that.
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“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
So pretty much they feel the law doesn't apply to them and are justifying their family member stealing from citizens.
Not only that, they are berating the law abiding citizen for not allowing their family member to break the law on her property.
They will pretty much justify anything their people do.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 10:29 am to Azranod
Thieflivesmatter
Animallivesdontmatter
Animallivesdontmatter
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:34 am to TigernMS12
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ou can't defend property with deadly force.
Is that a Florida law? I believe in Texas you can. In fact this is out of the Texas handbook:
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Texas law allows a person to use force in the protection of property to prevent or terminate another’s trespass or other unlawful interference with the possession of real or personal property. Deadly force can be used in Texas when the crime against property is classified as arson, burglary, robbery, criminal mischief at night or theft at night. Deadly force may also be used to prevent a person from fleeing with property immediately after the commission of a burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime if the actor believes that the property cannot be recovered by any other means or the use of force other than deadly force would expose the person to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:50 am to Clames
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This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 11:54 am
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:57 am to TigernMS12
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All SYG laws and laws that authorize the use of deadly force are grounded in defense of one's self. Property is not.
This is the 3rd of 4th time you've repeated this lie.
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Your an idiot if you think that you can just roll up to your house and shoot someone while the are running away after burglarizing your house.
I have not once stated that as a particular case. Your inability to parse the details is astounding. It had been pointed out numerous times that there are cases where lethal force is justified when it involves property and the particular situation you keep referring to didn't happen in the OP.
Also, it's "you're". Idiot.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 11:59 am
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:05 pm to Montezuma
If you are going to own a gun, you should also own a shovel.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:06 pm to BamaFan70
He loved learnin?? ..Whelp guess he never learned that there are crazier people in this world that will kill you dead..
Good for the homeowner and frick that tards family.
Good for the homeowner and frick that tards family.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:10 pm to BamaFan70
quote:I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt and go easy on them during the grieving process, but this is absurd.
“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:15 pm to shel311
Quote from the detective:
Maybe I'm reading a bit too much into it, but it's not always that simple.
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“If there’s any type of situation that happens or they believe there’s a burglary at the home or any type of confrontation, dial 911. Have the police make that confrontation,” Ferrin said. “That’s what we’re here for.”
Maybe I'm reading a bit too much into it, but it's not always that simple.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:20 pm to VOLhalla
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You can shoot when defending yourself or others, but you can't shoot someone just because they are committing burglary. Context matters.
Louisiana R.S. 14:20
§20. Justifiable homicide
A. A homicide is justifiable:
(1) When committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of losing his life or receiving great bodily harm and that the killing is necessary to save himself from that danger.
(2) When committed for the purpose of preventing a violent or forcible felony involving danger to life or of great bodily harm by one who reasonably believes that such an offense is about to be committed and that such action is necessary for its prevention. The circumstances must be sufficient to excite the fear of a reasonable person that there would be serious danger to his own life or person if he attempted to prevent the felony without the killing.
(3) When committed against a person whom one reasonably believes to be likely to use any unlawful force against a person present in a dwelling or a place of business, or when committed against a person whom one reasonably believes is attempting to use any unlawful force against a person present in a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40), while committing or attempting to commit a burglary or robbery of such dwelling, business, or motor vehicle.
(4)(a) When committed by a person lawfully inside a dwelling, a place of business, or a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40) when the conflict began, against a person who is attempting to make an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, or who has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, and the person committing the homicide reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the entry or to compel the intruder to leave the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle.
(b) The provisions of this Paragraph shall not apply when the person committing the homicide is engaged, at the time of the homicide, in the acquisition of, the distribution of, or possession of, with intent to distribute a controlled dangerous substance in violation of the provisions of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law.
B. For the purposes of this Section, there shall be a presumption that a person lawfully inside a dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle held a reasonable belief that the use of deadly force was necessary to prevent unlawful entry thereto, or to compel an unlawful intruder to leave the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle when the conflict began, if both of the following occur:
(1) The person against whom deadly force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering or had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle.
(2) The person who used deadly force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring or had occurred.
C. A person who is not engaged in unlawful activity and who is in a place where he or she has a right to be shall have no duty to retreat before using deadly force as provided for in this Section, and may stand his or her ground and meet force with force.
D. No finder of fact shall be permitted to consider the possibility of retreat as a factor in determining whether or not the person who used deadly force had a reasonable belief that deadly force was reasonable and apparently necessary to prevent a violent or forcible felony involving life or great bodily harm or to prevent the unlawful entry.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:37 pm to BamaFan70
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“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”
This is absolutely how many of the hood rats thought process and values are. They are taught that you need to go get yours, if you can steal it, it's ok. If you have to rob, that's ok. Police are bad.
Hood law, if you can move it....steal it. If you can't move it...break it. If you can't break it....take a shite on it.
LINK
Burglars can be killers too. Aramis killed a woman and shot her little girl because he wanted their tv.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:09 pm to Clames
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Carjacking is almost universally mentioned in CD and SYG laws.
I'm talking about common law and typical self defense statutes, first of all. Carjacking typically involves threat with a weapon and the victim being Ina vulnerable position (in a car).
Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:22 pm to TigernMS12
She only has to claim "I Feared For My Life". It works almost 100% of the time for cops.
She may very well have too. Dunno
She may very well have too. Dunno
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 3:24 pm
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