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Home Title Theft
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:22 pm
Now I keep hearing commercials for a $15-per-month service known as Home Title Lock, which purportedly prevents the crime of home title theft. The advertisement warns that thieves steal homes by signing a quitclaim deed to your home's title, and crafting a new, fake title with a bogus notary public seal whereby they can take out loans up to the limit of the property's equity value, which are to be paid by the real owner.
Furthermore, the commercial suggests there's an epidemic of home title theft, and that it's the fastest growing crime.
Is the threat as dire as the commercial claims? Does anyone here have Home Title Lock?
Furthermore, the commercial suggests there's an epidemic of home title theft, and that it's the fastest growing crime.
Is the threat as dire as the commercial claims? Does anyone here have Home Title Lock?
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:32 pm to tarzana
I heard these horror stories where people can do this and then come claim your house. Is this true?
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:34 pm to tarzana
According to Google...
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Home Title Lock is the exclusive home title protection system endorsed by Newt Gingrich.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:42 pm to tarzana
I can't imagine this ever works for an occupied dwelling.
There are all sorts of ways to steal unoccupied properties, and I doubt any common insurance policy guards against most or even many of them. Remember Bill Magee (LouisianaRecord.com) from St. Tammany. He falsified "quit claim" deeds and it was ultimately written off as a "novel legal theory."
Good luck insuring against that.
Beyond that, "adverse possession" is a part of common law. Possession actually is important, and your property rights are far from absolute.
ETA: This is much different from title insurance. I'm no expert on title insurance, but it seems to me to mostly protect against bureaucratic errors that somehow make a title look sketchy.
There are all sorts of ways to steal unoccupied properties, and I doubt any common insurance policy guards against most or even many of them. Remember Bill Magee (LouisianaRecord.com) from St. Tammany. He falsified "quit claim" deeds and it was ultimately written off as a "novel legal theory."
Good luck insuring against that.
Beyond that, "adverse possession" is a part of common law. Possession actually is important, and your property rights are far from absolute.
ETA: This is much different from title insurance. I'm no expert on title insurance, but it seems to me to mostly protect against bureaucratic errors that somehow make a title look sketchy.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:05 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
Yea that's what the commercial claims, that you can be subject to eviction from your own home, yet still are responsible for monthly mortgage payments and whatever loans the thief took out on your home's equity. It really sucks
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:09 am to tarzana
I heard that one time in Bangkok a guy woke up in a bath tub full of ice and stitches where his kidneys used to be.....
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:28 am to tarzana
Frien of mine was a mortgage broker for 30 years, he never once heard of it happening.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:41 am to tarzana
You must have something to convey in order to convey something.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 3:27 am to Eightballjacket
That company is evil and is just preying off of old folks
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:46 am to tarzana
I work in the title business. The only way someone can steal your title is to create a fake deed, falsify your signature, and then as stated above have it notarized and recorded in your county/parish land records. I'm sure it happens but have never ran across it.
Title insurance covers the home owner for defects/issues with the title prior to them owning it. Title Insurance does not cover anything that happens to your title AFTER you close on the house and own it.
All those title lock companies are doing is monitoring your title and letting you know if there is activity on it after the fact. There is no way they can prevent it from happening.
Title insurance covers the home owner for defects/issues with the title prior to them owning it. Title Insurance does not cover anything that happens to your title AFTER you close on the house and own it.
All those title lock companies are doing is monitoring your title and letting you know if there is activity on it after the fact. There is no way they can prevent it from happening.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:09 am to USMEagles
An Owner’s Title Policy is designed to protect you from covered title defects that existed prior to the issue date of your policy. If a valid claim is filed, your Owner’s Policy, subject to its terms and conditions, will cover financial loss up to the face amount of your policy.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:10 am to TomballTiger
here are some covered types of claims:
Improper execution of documents
Mistakes in recording or indexing legal documents
Forgeries and fraud
Undisclosed or missing heirs
Unpaid taxes and assessments
Unpaid judgments and liens
Unreleased mortgages
Mental incompetence of grantors on the deed
Impersonation of the true owners of the land by fraud
Improper execution of documents
Mistakes in recording or indexing legal documents
Forgeries and fraud
Undisclosed or missing heirs
Unpaid taxes and assessments
Unpaid judgments and liens
Unreleased mortgages
Mental incompetence of grantors on the deed
Impersonation of the true owners of the land by fraud
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 6:11 am
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:12 am to TomballTiger
Also, someone mentioned adverse possession. It has different terms in Texas. There are several timelines etc. Any landowner, especially of non homestead or un occupied property, should be aware of the state AP laws.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:19 am to tarzana
That old lady in the commercial just can’t believe she’s getting evicted from her home she didn’t sell
Try that to the wrong baw and someone is getting shot
Sounds like a scam to me
Try that to the wrong baw and someone is getting shot
Sounds like a scam to me
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:22 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
It's true, but hardly an epidemic. Do you know how hard home title theft actually is?
Do you also realize that any court worth it's salt would tell a bank " it sucks to be you"?. The only way this conceivably works is if the scammers file a quitclaim deed first. Then a title company and appraiser would have to be working with the scammer. I would think the second an appraiser shows up it should be over....plus if this is all done via second position HELOC'S and it turns out to be fraudulent, the bank eats it...
not the homeowner and the title attorney would have his rectum cleaned out by examiner using very coarse sandpaper.
Do you also realize that any court worth it's salt would tell a bank " it sucks to be you"?. The only way this conceivably works is if the scammers file a quitclaim deed first. Then a title company and appraiser would have to be working with the scammer. I would think the second an appraiser shows up it should be over....plus if this is all done via second position HELOC'S and it turns out to be fraudulent, the bank eats it...
not the homeowner and the title attorney would have his rectum cleaned out by examiner using very coarse sandpaper.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:27 am to TomballTiger
I suppose the fraudsters are researching trying to find those with free and clear title sothe title insurance won't kick in.
But like I said, you'd have to have vertical integration of the fraud....and extremely gullible homeowners.
But like I said, you'd have to have vertical integration of the fraud....and extremely gullible homeowners.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:36 am to tarzana
Let's say this happened to a homeowner, and he shot the fraudster in the face. If I'm on the jury, homeowner will not be convicted.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:40 am to tarzana
I don’t remember the details, but the lawyer lawyered us good when we closed, seller was a crazy lady that had several ex husbands, daughter was a crackhead.... nice house though so I didn’t want to take any chances...so I bought the title insurance, he said normally wouldn’t recommend it but would with this lady.
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