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re: Holy Shite! 3 dead follwing snow dispute
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:14 pm to northshorebamaman
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:14 pm to northshorebamaman
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I've seen things that were more graphicly intense but the whole mundaneness of the situation leading up to the shooting really fricks with me. You just don't know what mental state the person you're dealing with is in.
This is why I've made a conscious effort the past few years to just walk it off when I run into an a-hole in public. It's not worth it.
Especially in this day and age. This year thousands of people nationwide lost their jobs, lost their parents, wife leaves and takes the kids, had to declare bankruptcy and sell the house, had to sell the car, and the wife even took the fricking dog. You can’t even go to the bar and hit on chicks or go to your church for spiritual fulfillment.
All you can do is stay at home on your phone/computer and spiral into alcohol and drug addiction. Sorry, some people have nothing left to lose at this point so they’ll think to themselves “Why shouldn’t I go shoot up my a-hole neighbors who have been nothing but cunts to me and the rest of the neighborhood? Been putting the gun to my temple for weeks on end and they call me a pussy, so how about I show them I’m not, do the entire neighborhood a favor, and take them out with me?” I mean this guy may be a psychopath.... and I’m not condoning this behavior...
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Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:24 pm to Salmon
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he probably realized how much he had fricked up after the initial shooting and just decided that they were coming with him
so fricking senseless
Nah, I’m thinking he was planning on killing himself for at least a few weeks at this point and internally was calling himself as too big of a pussy to do it. And considering it seems like he’s the new guy on the block, I’m thinking some personal hell happened due to Covid where he’s lost everything. Calling him a pussy is what made him snap completely, and he took it out on the neighborhood assholes that I’m guessing he’s not alone in hating which finally gave him the conviction to going through with killing himself.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:27 pm to deltaland
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To be fair that’s just how people in the northeast talk it really didn’t seem that bad until the gun came out
But Philly is a bit different since it almost always comes to blows. Massholes at least prefer the sharp tongue over violence and people in New York are just accepting of being a fricking a-hole. The Philly breed is different to where you better not bring piss to a shite fight.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:34 pm to OMLandshark
Im not trying to disagree with you but i read that the couple had bullied him pretty consistently. I mean....they kept putting snow on his property after he asked them to stop. I think he had the handgun in the garage because he knew shite would probably go down.
Think about it.... dude pulls a gun... and fires six times and they still talk shite.... they probably didn't expect him to really do anything.
Think about it.... dude pulls a gun... and fires six times and they still talk shite.... they probably didn't expect him to really do anything.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:42 pm to dupergreenie
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Im not trying to disagree with you but i read that the couple had bullied him pretty consistently. I mean....they kept putting snow on his property after he asked them to stop. I think he had the handgun in the garage because he knew shite would probably go down.
Think about it.... dude pulls a gun... and fires six times and they still talk shite.... they probably didn't expect him to really do anything.
I mean, I think both of our theories can coexist. I actually agree with that sentiment. If they had run or apologized when he fired the gun in the air, I think it’s fair to think he wouldn’t have killed them. This just reeks to me as a guy who has lost everything, and his two a-hole neighbors egged him on. Commenting that he’s a loaner, isn’t that what the government is telling him to do at this point? A lot of people are loaners right now that are naturally social people without lockdowns. I don’t think their neighborhood is mourning the loss of any of the three save for feeling bad for the son.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:49 pm to OMLandshark
All very true. Police said that they had been to the houses before because of disputes. I just see two loud mouthed people who picked on a weaker man. I think the final statement of 'pussy huh' really tells a lot.... dude hit his limit.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 7:50 pm to dupergreenie
Did we ever figure out what caliber pistol he was using?
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:07 pm to Cash
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Did we ever figure out what caliber pistol he was using?
Caliber=Enough
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:19 pm to lnomm34
Far worse shite online than this. Hell, people do this type of shite more often than not! We just dont SEE it. On other sites, the comments were "he's an animal, psycho blah blah". But not one judging prick never stops to think hes got a fricking pedo for a neighbor and THATS OK? 
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:55 pm to Sterling Archer
Sucks the OP removed the link to the real video. It's out there still.
It's obvious this is not the first argument these people have had.
Some reports online claim the shooter had recently lost his wife and was a loner and suffering from depression.
Some observations:
-In most places the green area between the sidewalk and the street is servitude. Nobody "owns" that property.
-It is clear the people who were shot were escalating and taunting the shooter. It doesn't make the shooter right but be careful who you push to action with your words. There are people who will take you up on it.
-I find it interesting the parties daring the shooter to "do it" are the first ones screaming for the cops and in apparent disbelief while they are begging for their lives.
In short there is no right party in this scenario but I can assure you either party had ample opportunity to de-escalate and prevent the loss of life.
As far as the shooter goes. Once he fired, he didn't have much to lose, his life was over at that point.
It's obvious this is not the first argument these people have had.
Some reports online claim the shooter had recently lost his wife and was a loner and suffering from depression.
Some observations:
-In most places the green area between the sidewalk and the street is servitude. Nobody "owns" that property.
-It is clear the people who were shot were escalating and taunting the shooter. It doesn't make the shooter right but be careful who you push to action with your words. There are people who will take you up on it.
-I find it interesting the parties daring the shooter to "do it" are the first ones screaming for the cops and in apparent disbelief while they are begging for their lives.
In short there is no right party in this scenario but I can assure you either party had ample opportunity to de-escalate and prevent the loss of life.
As far as the shooter goes. Once he fired, he didn't have much to lose, his life was over at that point.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:08 pm to Sterling Archer
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:11 am to AndyCBR
yea, guy was at his wit's end with these 2 no doubt! Probably not the first time they argue in front of the neighbors outside. But at least he did his neighbors a favor and saved them tax money by offing himself instead of going to jail for life over mindless crap.
As the saying goes, "he went out with a bang!"
As the saying goes, "he went out with a bang!"
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:28 am to OMLandshark
Honestly if it was my loved ones that got gunned down and watching that after giving time for blood to cool after initial reaction, I’d be thinking why the frick were they acting like that? Putting it to someone to the 9th degree in public front yard?
So unnecessary.
So unnecessary.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:04 am to Havoc
You'd be surprised. Every neighborhood has at least ONE of these types of neighbors.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:21 am to AndyCBR
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Sucks the OP removed the link to the real video. It's out there still.
It's incredibly brutal to watch.
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It's obvious this is not the first argument these people have had.
Probably not.
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Some reports online claim the shooter had recently lost his wife and was a loner and suffering from depression.
Why is there not a single photo of the shooter?
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-It is clear the people who were shot were escalating and taunting the shooter. It doesn't make the shooter right but be careful who you push to action with your words. There are people who will take you up on it.
I agree that it's simply not worth it to escalate most situations.
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-I find it interesting the parties daring the shooter to "do it" are the first ones screaming for the cops and in apparent disbelief while they are begging for their lives.
This part I am going to have to disagree with you. While I don't agree with them saying, "do it." I still can see how it was an absolute shock to them that he actually did it. And of course they were screaming for any help after being shot like that. How do you expect someone to react as they are being killed?
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In short there is no right party in this scenario but I can assure you either party had ample opportunity to de-escalate and prevent the loss of life.
While true here.. I still question anyone who is capable of doing this.. What I mean is, if this can set someone off.. how do you know something else wouldn't have? He has serious mental issues if he can follow through like that. I mean he came back out and did more. That's sick. Absolutely sickening. Seriously, what's to say something else wouldn't have set him off? He's a horrible person for doing this. I don't see how anyone can even begin to justify or reason out his actions. I have no respect for someone who takes the lives of others over a dispute. Not that my respect matters.
I really do wonder if it's true he was depressed. Perhaps this was his way out. Something that he couldn't come back from. I don't know. I'm sick about this.
I regret watching the full video. I knew better, but stupid curiosity often sucks me in.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 5:44 am
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:06 am to Havoc
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after giving time for blood to cool after initial reaction, I’d be thinking why the frick were they acting like that?
Because they're assholes. Low class, nasty, trashy assholes.
You read the police report and see their pictures and tell me these people don't abuse the cashier when their purchase rings up for $1 more than the sale price, don't cut off and tailgate other drivers, don't get drunk and threaten to fight their family at Thanksgiving and shite. We all know people like that. I see them every day.
I really hope the people in here talking about the thin line between sanity and cold blooded murder don't actually own firearms.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:17 am to Muthsera
Did we ever figure out ehy they were shoveling sniw across the street in the first place?
No one wants someone else's snow piled up in front of their own house. That snowpile will stay there for months
No one wants someone else's snow piled up in front of their own house. That snowpile will stay there for months
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:18 am to rumination
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This part I am going to have to disagree with you. While I don't agree with them saying, "do it." I still can see how it was an absolute shock to them that he actually did it. And of course they were screaming for any help after being shot like that. How do you expect someone to react as they are being killed?
If someone is pointing a gun at me the last thing I am going to do is wave my cellphone at them and taunt them to "go ahead".
The stupidity of the victims is my point. Did she really think her cellphone was going to protect her from being shot dead? By the time someone has a gun drawn on you, your cellphone is not much use.
Again, I'm not saying the shooter was righteous in his actions, but the victims absolutely escalated the situation.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:23 am to East Coast Band
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Did we ever figure out ehy they were shoveling sniw across the street in the first place?
No one wants someone else's snow piled up in front of their own house. That snowpile will stay there for months
Where do you think the county puts the snow when they plow a street?
The area between the sidewalk and street is typically a servitude.
Again, not defending either party but 2 feet of snow has to go somewhere.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:04 am to Sterling Archer
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murder-suicide. A neighbor shot a husband and wife on Monday during a snow storm just before 9 a.m. They had apparently been feuding over where to deposit snow.
Try to convince me this isn't at least partly fueled by lockdowns and freedom restrictions that should have never happened.
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