re: history discussion on why SC and Georgia are nicer/classier than Alabama and Mississippi

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Assuming you mean 17th century here.

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Absolutely 100% correct.

I'll correct that. I had 15 on the brain when I was posting that while being on the phone with BladeHQ at the time correcting a syntax error in my CC number.

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There are far more wealthy and influential families in Charleston, Beaufort, Columbia, and Greenville.

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Put them under the microscope that the Murdaughs found themselves under and see how it shakes out.

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The coastal cities in South Carolina and Georgia are probably worse than the ones more inland so I don’t think so.

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You think Savannah is worse than Albany, Columbus, or Macon?

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Georgia, OTOH, was a debtor colony similar to Australia.

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Plus the Cotton farmers of Georgia depleted the red clay soil so bad that these farmers were forced to move west to find better farming conditions. Most cotton farmers ended up in Mississippi.

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Georgia, OTOH, was a debtor colony similar to Australia.

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... of course it could be said Georgua has had years of experience stealing stuff,

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There has always been a small segment of the population in Mississippi who had money. They came here before the civil war to make money off the labor of other folks. For them, life was good. For absolutely everyone else black, white, whatever they did not give a shite. Those people ran Mississippi for generations and are still behind whoever is in power here. It might change in another few generations because they do little for society and eventually they will eliminate themselves.

Interesting. Do you know who they are?

A lot of this can be attributed to Georgia's ag extension and continued education. Georgia was a pioneer in bringing education to residents across the state in the early 1900s. There was a "College on Wheels" created to reach all corners of the state to promote better farming practices which propelled GA to top of farm production in the south during the early 1900s. It was a train with a passenger car and a flat car that carried new innovative farming equipment. They taught classes reaching over 350,000 farmers across the state. It was one reason Georgia was more successful dealing with the boll weevil. Georgia's economy boomed while others in the south fell behind.

How many of the original founding families of Mississippi are still there? Pretty sure most are long gone to greener pastures and the people running things are the descendants of carpetbaggers or the Celtic slaves

That map is a huge generalization but it’s a fine general rule.

A lot of the English are in fact listed as American as well as other more recent ancestors. If you are completely English and you have a great grandfather from Italy you might say you are Italian even though you are only 1/8.

Same can be said for scots Irish.

Another thing to point out is that these scots-Irish come from the borderlands of England and Scotland initially before Ireland. These people are not like highland scots at all.

My own father always said he was German but I have done extensive research and he is 100% English or scots Irish, at least if you leave out the Cherokee. And his most recent ancestor probably left Europe in the 18th century.