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re: Here's why the country is freaking out and under virtual lock down - mathematical reason
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:53 am to TH03
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:53 am to TH03
quote:Yes
Shouldn't we be thankful for this?
quote:No
Do you people want a catastrophic event?
quote:I am simply asking why we gave our procedures that worked for other novel viruses that wrecked havoc a dose of anabolic steroids....
Because you seem to be hating people for taking measures to prevent one.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 8:54 am
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:53 am to TH03
quote:
Shouldn't we be thankful for this?
Do you people want a catastrophic event? Because you seem to be hating people for taking measures to prevent one.
I think you have this backwards.
We didn't have these extreme measures for whats o far are objectively worse situations, and none of them turned into catastrophic events. Therefore, why are we all freaking out about this one?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:54 am to SaintsandTigers
Man it's really difficult to discuss stuff with the intentionally dishonest.
SARS was an epidemiological shot over the bow. If you don't think people in the profession look back at SARS and go "whew, that was close" then you're nuts.
We didn't shut everything down because we had 27 cases. Canada had a couple hundred with a 17% death rate.
Swine Flu's mortality rate was far lower, as you know. It also wasn't a non-event. Anyone who worked in an ICU in 2009 will vividly remember seeing 20-somethings struggle and sometimes die of it.
SARS was an epidemiological shot over the bow. If you don't think people in the profession look back at SARS and go "whew, that was close" then you're nuts.
We didn't shut everything down because we had 27 cases. Canada had a couple hundred with a 17% death rate.
Swine Flu's mortality rate was far lower, as you know. It also wasn't a non-event. Anyone who worked in an ICU in 2009 will vividly remember seeing 20-somethings struggle and sometimes die of it.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:54 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:
No. What we are saying is this disease is being hysterically hyped up now for what every reason and will end up being less of a medical
Issue than those
Well it's already worse than SARS
And if less than 12,000 people die from COVID, that would be a good thing, no?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:55 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:
What we are saying is this disease is being hysterically hyped up now for what every reason
Panic sells in the media.
quote:
and will end up being less of a medical
Issue than those
Like magically? Or because we're taking steps to ensure that it is?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:55 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Precisely. And nobody can answer this
I think you have this backwards.
We didn't have these extreme measures for whats o far are objectively worse situations, and none of them turned into catastrophic events. Therefore, why are we all freaking out about this one?
The only answer that would make sense is that they know more about this virus and are withholding info. The response otherwise makes no sense
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:55 am to fr33manator
quote:
When have fearmongers ever been right?
1929
1939
2005 (Katrina)
They get it right now and then.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:55 am to TH03
The nature of the virus and the steps being taken
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:56 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:
Do any of you realize that no one under the age of 80 has died from this? Not using this as an excuse to not care about it, but this virus hasn't killed a non elderly person yet, on the entire planet. See below, the confirmed cases where someone died only applies to those over 80, as they are the only age group that has died from this.
This is blatantly false.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:57 am to LNCHBOX
quote:
We didn't have these extreme measures for whats o far are objectively worse situations, and none of them turned into catastrophic events. Therefore, why are we all freaking out about this one?
Because we get better at stuff?
I guess I just don't understand the continued assuredness of people who don't do this for a living telling everyone in the industry, everyone on the ground in Italy and China, etc. that what we're doing (echoing almost everywhere else) is overkill and politically tinged to hurt the President.
I mean, at this point the President is making prime time addresses. Whatever he's hearing has convinced him, and I'm not sure why normal dudes like me are still so convinced that this is an overreaction.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:57 am to Salmon
quote:Fantastic
And if less than 12,000 people die from COVID, that would be a good thing, no?
I am not a genie, but honestly, if a genie could tell me these current measures saved 20,000 lives I would say we went way overboard
For our actions to make logical sense, it would need to be something that saved 100s of thousands of lives/ prevented 1-2 million extra hospitalizations
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 8:57 am
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:57 am to SaintsandTigers
quote:
Nobody looks back at those events as catastrophic
People are more easily manipulated today even vs the H1N1 10 years ago. They desperately want the illusion of safety and security.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:57 am to SaintsandTigers
quote:
The only answer that would make sense is that they know more about this virus and are withholding info. The response otherwise makes no sense
We know that it is easily spreadable and has a higher mortality rate than the 2009 Swine Flu which killed 12,000 people in the US
Just that should tell you that maybe we should take more precautions than we did in 2009?
Seems obvious to me
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:57 am to Pettifogger
quote:
Because we get better at stuff?
Not sure you'll get agreement that what is happening today is better.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:59 am to SaintsandTigers
quote:
For our actions to make logical sense, it would need to be something that saved 100s of thousands of lives/ prevented 1-2 million extra hospitalizations
maybe this is the fear
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:00 am to Salmon
quote:And we would just have to agree to disagree that is a logical fear
maybe this is the fear
I will admit you have been the first person that disagrees that hasnt lsot their mind and said something like "you lvoe trump" or "i bet you stayed in st. bernard for katrina"
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 9:01 am
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:01 am to Street Hawk
quote:
No one has any immunity to the Coronavirus
We do not know this. Why have -0-, Nada, Ziltch, children under the age of 9 gotten this virus??
Quit spewing your bullshite.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:01 am to LNCHBOX
quote:
Not sure you'll get agreement that what is happening today is better.
I take no issue whatsoever with someone going "man, I know this is dangerous but I'm just not sure all of this is going to help or is really needed. I don't know for sure, but it seems kind of reactionary."
In many ways I'm in that boat.
But I am baffled by those who are absolutely convinced they're correct, and frustrated by those who continue to use inapplicable/bad info to make arguments on that basis.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:01 am to SaintsandTigers
quote:
And we would just have to agree to disagree that is a logical fear
I don't even know if I agree with it
but then again, I'm not an expert on these things, so
maybe you are?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:02 am to Supermoto Tiger
quote:
We do not know this. Why have -0-, Nada, Ziltch, children under the age of 9 gotten this virus??
Quit spewing your bullshite.
I don't believe this is true.
I think children just don't show symptons.
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