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Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:16 pm to
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middle schoolers are going to curse when talking to each other and they are going to talk about girls/boys. dont limit that.
this one was tough. I am a hard arse about language. But then I remembered my language. We just discipline the big ones. And haven’t had once we revisited the ground rules.

The talking about friends I referred to was gossip. Stay out of that crap. These boys and girls will share things with the offended party. They are drama filled teens at times
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1028 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:02 pm to
Teach them to respect themselves, others, and not let peer pressure sway their better judgment. Don't be over controlling, rather be a good example of what to do and show examples of what not to do and why. frick all of this "check their phone every 5 mins", no social media, tik tok is ruining kids... That's psycho babble. Teach them how to be good people and they will respect themselves enough to (at least most of the time) do the right things. When they do wrong explain why, and give positive reinforcement when they do good things. Child psychology 101.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23043 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:29 pm to
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1. What are the best apps for protecting the kids from the pitfalls of middle school & soon to be high school cell phone use?


Karate school and camping trips where there is no internet.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58963 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:57 pm to
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frick all of this "check their phone every 5 mins",
That has not been said once in this thread.

There is a lady in the neighborhood that gave the talk you gave. She tells you how great her kids are and such. You should see the crap they send to their circle.
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That's psycho babble.
Psycho babble.
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psychology 101.
So which side of the fence are you on. Because there is a lot of evidence that social media for teens creates some issues in some and not so much in others. Every kid is different.

You can trust but verify.

Posted by Riggle
Member since Feb 2013
3961 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 6:05 pm to
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. What are the best apps for protecting the kids from the pitfalls of middle school & soon to be high school cell phone use?


In an ideal world, all social media. Although most phones allow you to put a timer on apps, so limiting something like instagram to say, 45 minutes a day could be effective if the kids already have social media.

This may sound hippy dippy, but headspace is a nice tool to teach young people about mindfulness habits. Mindfulness has helped me manage my digital time tremendously.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
9335 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:45 pm to
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1.) No tik tok

2.) No tik tok

3.) See 1 & 2

4.) No social media apps

5.) See 4

6.) No encrypted messaging apps

God Speed


All of this plus you can and will check their phone whenever you want, including text conversations (because that is where civil society is quickly dying, kids hide behind phones, don't know what sentences are, and speak in idiotic memes and vines and emojis and shite I don't even understand)
Posted by slappy dappy doo
Member since May 2021
441 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:10 pm to
You people have scared me to my core in this thread.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
15794 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:33 pm to
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we've already found some messages in various "safe" apps that are troubling




Go on..
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4075 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:38 pm to
Any school that requires my child to have a phone in order to learn is a school I’m taking my child out of. That is wholly unacceptable.

I understand a computer for high school kids and 7th and 8th graders. Yes, I know a cell phone is like a mini computer but they function differently. It’s not necessary to have a phone to use an app. A cell phone is being used as a wedge to separate you from your child. A computer is different.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8078 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:50 pm to
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Our biggest hurdles right now are cell phones for the 2 middle schoolers. They "have" to have them for school HW & class participation apps


Reminds me of when chrome books were first passed out out around here, do this and do that on the computer when you get home. That’s easy for some, but in a rural Parish, that’s not the case. Just because I have reliable internet doesn’t mean people that live several miles out of town have the same access to the internet. During Covid and the many virtual days that followed, messages from the school said come sit in the parking lot for Wi-Fi, or find a public library.
Posted by Tiger971
Member since Dec 2019
303 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 6:09 pm to


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Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
19266 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 6:16 pm to
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We didn’t give any of our kids a cell phone until their freshman year of high school.


This is the plan we are on. Even though my 7th grader tells us everyday how she is the only kid without. People are amazed when you tell,them that you aren’t a phone til,9th grade.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10053 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 6:24 pm to
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Any school that requires my child to have a phone in order to learn is a school I’m taking my child out of.


So you'll sell your house to change counties/school districts?

The phone/iPad itself isn't the problem, it's how parents don't control what happens on the device because it's too "hard." Moms get tired of approving the installation of apps, dads get tired of looking in their messages and deleted messages for inappropriate content, etc. I helped a mom install an actual security program on her daughters' devices, it lasted two days before she asked me to remove it.

The current rage, which I really don't get is putting Life360 on iPhones for kids that don't drive. Find My iPhone works just fine, but they see this crap in their social media feeds and think the programs do things they don't. They don't bother to see that in the top results of searching for Life360 is a video that teaches you how to fake your location.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 6:27 pm to
I think you caring enough to help as much as you can is a bigger lesson to your grandkids than any restrictions you could ever put on their phone or internet usage.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16799 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 8:33 pm to
It’s a constant battle. Use Microsoft to monitor Xbox and PC…go through their phone settings to block everything and check it regularly. Have the phone shut down at a certain time.

And every time it updates you have to do that all over again.
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