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re: Help settle an arguement on Card game Pedro (cut throat is dumb)

Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:27 pm to
All that does is help you count cards and give more power to the dealer playing Lafourche rules. If I can't keep off cards, why can the dealer get to pick and choose what off cards he want's to make you follow.

You should have no idea what's in anyone's hands. "Counting cards" should only take place to keep track of what's been thrown to know what the next boss card is. Shouldn't matter what someone kept.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:27 pm to
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I have never seen the passing of any cards to you partner; thats just not right


I will admit that it sucks when you are on the opposing team. But I have passed it on when it happens to me and take a break from the table that hand. I wouldn't cry if someone doesn't play that way. Its always been the one rule discussed before the game starts.

1st player "We playin pass 1 non point?"
2nd Player "face up?"
1st player "yeah"
3rd player "what the frick is this shite?"
4th player too drunk to care....
Posted by jembeurt
Raceland
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:33 pm to
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I have never seen the passing of any cards to you partner; thats just not right


I had never seen this either, until playing with Colonels and Dude at Nicholls. Like to start a fight when that shite was pulled the first time. I'm not a fan of that style. Also the same with the dealer getting to look at the bottom card before bidding. A bunch of shitty rules around while playing at Nicholls.

And with the keeping of off cards in the initial deal, I've only seen it done when money was on the line. With cards being thrown away in the trash pile, those are considered dead cards, point or not. Had one dickbag throw away the 10 when we bid 14 because that was his only trump, thinking we couldn't get our bid that way. It didn't go well for that dude.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:35 pm to
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Also the same with the dealer getting to look at the bottom card before bidding


WTF this is dumb and isn't legal

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Had one dickbag pull throw away the 10 when another team bid 14 because that was his only trump, thinking we couldn't get our bid that way. It didn't go well for that dude.


gotta give him credit pretty slick. but also not legal.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:43 pm to
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Also the same with the dealer getting to look at the bottom card before bidding


Never heard of that. I think Pedro is just full of people making up rules to be honest. On both sides of the parish line. I've had quite a few people act as though they were the best Pedro player in the world and then start spouting off some local rules halfway through the game. I'm just going to keep on thinking that the way my grandparents taught me to play is the correct way screw everything else
Posted by Casty McBoozer
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:44 pm to
We always play bid - 7, force bid on dealer is 6
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:09 pm to
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I've never played where someone intentionally kept off cards to help the dealer. That's just dumb.


Then I'm not sure you really went to Nicholls...

I've played that way for years when my partner was the dealer. If someone bids 11, and I've only got 1 of the trump, I may keep all of my cards and give the dealer a chance at 6 more cards to set the opponent.
Posted by TheDude
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:12 pm to
This rule is also bullshite and was only implemented in games involving one particular player, because said player was a known cheater and would always look. I've never played that way unless THAT GUY was in the game.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:14 pm to
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This rule is also bull shite and was only implemented in games involving one particular player, because said player was a known cheater and would always look. I've never played that way unless THAT GUY was in the game.


If the dealer wants to show the table (by accident)when they shuffle I will peek. I know if there is an Ace of Diamonds I will not go in diamonds.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 3:14 pm
Posted by jembeurt
Raceland
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:18 pm to
The only thing worse than "THAT GUY" would be to cover the frick out of the 6!!
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:21 pm to
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Then I'm not sure you really went to Nicholls...

Be "not sure" all you want, but I spent a good amount of time there in the union. But I will say, I played mainly with St. Charles and Lafourche (god damn Central Lafourche mother frickers) people. Never really played with people from Houma that often.
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I've played that way for years when my partner was the dealer. If someone bids 11, and I've only got 1 of the trump, I may keep all of my cards and give the dealer a chance at 6 more cards to set the opponent.

Is this while playing cut throat?
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Also the same with the dealer getting to look at the bottom card before bidding

Yeah, I've never considered that a rule. Not saying it doesn't happen by some slight of hand, but I've never considered it a rule.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:22 pm to
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I've had quite a few people act as though they were the best Pedro player in the world and then start spouting off some local rules halfway through the game.

Everyone's met a guy like this. But if they started spouting off shite in the middle, that wouldn't fly. All rules need to be spelled out and agreed upon PRIOR to starting the game.
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
10514 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:35 pm to
There are no special rules. Discuss minimum bid 7, and whether or not it's force bid 6 or 7. Then if it's cut throat or follow suit.

I play both ways. From Lafourche, live in Terrebonne so it doesn't matter if it's follow or cut. Some ppl get bent out of shape about one or the other.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89445 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:40 pm to
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Be "not sure" all you want, but I spent a good amount of time there in the union


I believe you. No one would lie about spending time at Nicholls.

Yes, if I kept off cards, it was while playing cut throat. That is the only way I played, although I've got no problem with following suit.

According to Wikipedia, "cut throat" is the standard rule:

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The highest bidder leads to the first trick and need not lead a trump. The standard rules for card play in trick-taking games hold, with one exception: It is always allowed to trump instead of following suit. ("Follow suit or trump.") As usual, the highest card of the suit led wins each trick, unless a trump is played, in which case the highest trump played wins. The winner of a trick leads to the next trick


Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:42 pm to
The dealer shouldn't get to look at the bottom card, because there is a chance that he or she won't even have any cards left in the deck after everyone has filled up their hands. It doesn't happen often, but I've seen it before.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:43 pm to
Houma owns Wiki
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:48 pm to
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No one would lie about spending time at Nicholls.

True story

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Yes, if I kept off cards, it was while playing cut throat. That is the only way I played, although I've got no problem with following suit.

I'm the same except I pretty much only play follow suit. I'll play cut throat if I'm with a group that does that. I prefer follow-suit though. I think it adds more strategy to the game.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:50 pm to
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I'm the same except I pretty much only play follow suit. I'll play cut throat if I'm with a group that does that. I prefer follow-suit though. I think it adds more strategy to the game.


I will do the same. Too bad we can't play right now and put these cut throat losers in their place. Teach them to think more
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30647 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:50 pm to
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If so, I need to go to their records office and request my 2nd diploma.


It was an elective at Hahnville High School
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:52 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 3:53 pm
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