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re: Help bring a city-wide fiber internet network to Baton Rouge

Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:13 am to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69669 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:13 am to
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Sounds about right.


exactly. Cox reps wine and dine the mayor and city council and poof - bye bye fiber
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:15 am to
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which is code word for TAXES

So you don't think this is a good use of tax money?
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
24056 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:18 am to
Wow - shocked BR is considering this. I lived in Lafayette at the time of their fiber fight, and things got downright nasty at certain points. Tons of misinformation and lies put out by the incumbent providers. Now muni fiber is absolutely thriving there.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:19 am to
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and after millions of dollars spent new technology would come in and make it obsolete....no thank you

You just lost all validity to any comments you make in this thread.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
24056 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:20 am to
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In actuality, COX made several phone calls and the city voluntarily pulled out of that race. Which is why, we need support for this: support.batonrougefiber.com

If you can, attend the Council meeting on 6/22 to voice your support.



I'd heard the former governor's wife had a charity that was supported monetarily by ATT, which is what eventually caused the withdrawal. I'm sure all incumbents had some hand in that.
Posted by BRTiger2005
Member since May 2005
1270 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:22 am to
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I'd heard the former governor's wife had a charity that was supported monetarily by ATT, which is what eventually caused the withdrawal. I'm sure all incumbents had some hand in that.


Yup, this is also accurate.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:34 am to
Having the city put in a fiber infrastructure would be amazing.

Signed.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42596 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:39 am to
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but holding the city/state back because of self interest pisses me off like nothing else.

welcome to Louisiana
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
24312 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:55 am to
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Who would pay for the fiber and installation ?


The better question is who is getting paid?
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:00 am to
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Who would pay for the fiber and installation ?



People who are content with their provider and wouldn't actually benefit from such an undertaking.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3753 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:06 am to
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People who are content with their provider and wouldn't actually benefit from such an undertaking.

the current provider would likely be forced to lower rates with increased competition. The increased economic development would also benefit these people.

The reality is it breeds competition, which is always good for the consumer.
Posted by BRTiger2005
Member since May 2005
1270 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:08 am to
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the current provider would likely be forced to lower rates with increased competition. The increased economic development would also benefit these people.

The reality is it breeds competition, which is always good for the consumer.


This guy gets it.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80821 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:10 am to
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quote:
the current provider would likely be forced to lower rates with increased competition. The increased economic development would also benefit these people.

The reality is it breeds competition, which is always good for the consumer.


This guy gets it.

Posted by RecordSetter
Member since Mar 2016
330 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:10 am to
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Cox reps wine and dine the mayor and city council and poof - bye bye fiber



You guys don't understand how fibre works...If the lines were run, COX or ATT would use them...
Posted by BRTiger2005
Member since May 2005
1270 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:13 am to
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You guys don't understand how fibre works...If the lines were run, COX or ATT would use them...


Yes! Which is great. But they'd have to aggressive compete for your business. Faster speeds, lower prices.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:13 am to
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Next Wednesday (6/22), the Metro Council will vote to approve or reject an assessment that is the first step in building an city-wide fiber network in Baton Rouge. This means every man, woman, and child could have high speed internet, dozens of providers to choose from, and ultimately faster speeds at lower prices.


Sounds like a tax since the city of BR can't pay for it.

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This means every man, woman, and child could have high speed internet, dozens of providers to choose from, and ultimately faster speeds at lower prices


Why does "everyone" need this? If they can't afford the prices of the higher speeds now then who's going to pay for that?
Posted by Count Chocula
Tier 5 and proud
Member since Feb 2009
63908 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:13 am to
We did it in Lafayette. Its not all that its cracked up to be...

My personal opinion is that govt should never compete with private enterprise. Govt runs out of money, it endlessly raises your taxes. Private enterprise runs out of money, it goes out of business.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:16 am to
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We did it in Lafayette. Its not all that its cracked up to be...



This proposal isn't to have an LUS-type service, as I understand.. it's for the city to put down fiber all around Baton Rouge and lease their infrastructure to providers. That would be brilliant.
Posted by BRTiger2005
Member since May 2005
1270 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:20 am to
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My personal opinion is that govt should never compete with private enterprise. Govt runs out of money, it endlessly raises your taxes. Private enterprise runs out of money, it goes out of business.


I agree with you 100% i don't think the government should be offering services.

This model is the opposite of what lafayette did. Lafayette competed in the private sector as an ISP. The Baton Rouge model would simply build out infrastructure that third party providers could lease out to offer services over. Baton Rouge would never offer services to residents or businesses.
Posted by BRTiger2005
Member since May 2005
1270 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:26 am to
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Why does "everyone" need this? If they can't afford the prices of the higher speeds now then who's going to pay for that?


In Kansas City, google is paying for free internet for anyone in an impoverished neighborhood.

The amazing thing about the internet is it's a meritocracy. We're literally talking on a multi-million dollar message board that was started by two guys who just wanted to talk about their favorite football team. Now you and I are discussing our city's infrastructure on it. Having more people in our city with the ability to make those kinds of leaps is a good thing.
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