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re: Headline of the day: “Debate over crack pipes holding up funding of US federal government”
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:25 am to Fat and Happy
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:25 am to Fat and Happy
Crack pipe isn't a name... Nor is it in the funding bill.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:27 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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Crack pipe isn't a name... Nor is it in the funding bill.
I don’t disagree this is overblown. Biden and Kamala have spent their entire careers making sure blacks are locked up for decades on petty drug charges. In reality they’d be against giving out crack pipes.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 8:29 am
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:30 am to Abstract Queso Dip
I am almost proud of someone on the left standing up for what your side of the government wants to do.
On that note, I could not think of something dumber for you stand for.
On that note, I could not think of something dumber for you stand for.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:34 am to zonion
I'm not standing for anything other than truth and there have been lies told to garner clicks. Clarification for idiot politicians have been made and they have walked back their positions since this story has been published.
I have a problem with people not staying up to date on the facts and debates and then spew misinformation.
I have a problem with people not staying up to date on the facts and debates and then spew misinformation.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 8:34 am
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:39 am to SPEEDY
It seems there are no actual crack pipes being given out but a kit for sanitary use of drugs and disease transmission. I'm all for money being put into rehabilitation and the fentanyl crises except for things that don't discourage drug use. If private organizations want to hand these out then go for it, it's not something the government should be funding though.
Most needle exchanges turn into open air drug markets within a few months anyways, they do nothing to help addicts recover.
Most needle exchanges turn into open air drug markets within a few months anyways, they do nothing to help addicts recover.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:39 am to The Spleen
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The program targets all drug use. Conservatives honed in on the provision that allows grantees to purchase “safe smoking kits” and turned into a crack pipe debate.
We live in the dumbest timeline.
just Proves, yet again, that the government is too large in scope and just wastes money.....
wasteful spending strikes again.....
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:50 am to RazorBroncs
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The fact that you think the people opposing this are 'dumb' says everything about you
Why should taxpayers be paying for any of that? What is a "safe smoking kit" that makes it ANY safer to use, and won't those pipes just be used over and over like the ones already used?
It makes zero sense for our government to fund this, when there's a million other things they could be doing with our tax dollars that better serves us. If you support this without question, congratulations you're one of the brainwashed idiots that'll support anything the left trots out there like a good little lap dog.
i remember when the left found out that AIDS and other STDs increased in Indiana and tried to crucify Mike Pence because he stopped giving out clean needles and state sponsored drugs.
that's like blaming him that breaking and entering crimes increased because he stopped giving out keys.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:53 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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The initiative from HHS plans to provide naloxone, fentanyl test strips, and clean syringes
Why don’t they just legalize all drugs and sell them?
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:55 am to SPEEDY
Everything you love about America is because of liberals.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:56 am to The Spleen
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The program targets all drug use. Conservatives honed in on the provision that allows grantees to purchase “safe smoking kits” and turned into a crack pipe debate.
We live in the dumbest timeline.
We sure do. We have fricking morons like yourself willing to be robbed blind by our federal government in favor of literal crackheads to defend their team.
You don’t even realize that the opposing team is manufactured on a daily basis. The “conservatives” could be any person that opposes policies that have decades worth of proof of being failures. The “conservatives” at this point is simply a crappy braking system, yet the media can trick simpletons into thinking they are the enemy. They are holding up spending? Maybe if the non “conservatives” would stop putting bullshite into these bills that are necessary to keep the government functioning these debates would not need to occur.
We are in a free fall of spending and borrowing. We are robbing the future of our country in favor of programs that bloat the federal government and have made led the poor and disadvantaged further away from prosperity. It’s right there in front of us all to see. But dammit, not only can my team not be wrong, the other side must be wrong, so the answer must be to keep borrowing, raise interest rates and crack pipes for everyone.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:57 am to udtiger
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The $$$ is specifically for "clean kits" and similar "safe use" items.
So I can get money for clean hookers and blow since I don't smoke?
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:01 am to Fat and Happy
Will crack houses be renamed into crack mansions?
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:02 am to The Spleen
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I don’t think people opposed to it are dumb. I think people that turned it into a debate over crack pipes are dumb.
Is it not, in fact, a debate over crack pipes?
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:03 am to RazorBroncs
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and won't those pipes just be used over and over like the ones already used?
It makes zero sense for our government to fund this, when there's a million other things they could be doing with our tax dollars that better serves us. If you support this without question, congratulations you're one of the brainwashed idiots that'll support anything the left trots out there like a good little lap dog.
There are no cracks pipes in the kit. That's where the conservative side of propaganda pushers lied. They realized if they trick people into thinking Crack pipes were being handed out, it would cause more outrage than what's actually in the kits (alcohol swab, lip balm, and othet materials to promote clean hygene).
I think this includes syringes though, which to me is just as concerning as distributing crack pipes.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:05 am to OceanMan
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You don’t even realize that the opposing team is manufactured on a daily basis. The “conservatives” could be any person that opposes policies that have decades worth of proof of being failures. The “conservatives” at this point is simply a crappy braking system, yet the media can trick simpletons into thinking they are the enemy. They are holding up spending? Maybe if the non “conservatives” would stop putting bullshite into these bills that are necessary to keep the government functioning these debates would not need to occur.
this is the same thing as getting mad at parents or conservatives wanting a say in education and losing their mind at school boards.
they're only lashing back out at stupid stuff the other side started doing.
If there was a clean bill that was saying "hey we're going to start spending some money to counsel and get the drug users off the street in LA and SF," it'd probably pass. but of course the left had to include funding to keep letting people keep use drugs (yes syringes are in there, and there are crack pipes in some state funded kits currently, i'm not saying they are in the proposed bill) and here we are.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 9:10 am
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:08 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:10 am to whoisnickdoobs
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There are no cracks pipes in the kit. That's where the conservative side of propaganda pushers lied. They realized if they trick people into thinking Crack pipes were being handed out, it would cause more outrage than what's actually in the kits (alcohol swab, lip balm, and othet materials to promote clean hygene).
Oh well that is not a waste of money at all. Wow I’m glad you clarified that they won’t be giving them actual crackpipes, they are just giving them disposable garbage.
At what point int time will you clowns realize that the debate is that we are spending money we don’t have on ineffective programs. That’s the debate, not what is contained in the “safe smoking kit” that is being advertised as necessary in order for the federal government to function.
And the conservatives are the ones running propaganda
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:12 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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I'm not standing for anything other than truth and there have been lies told to garner clicks. Clarification for idiot politicians have been made and they have walked back their positions since this story has been published.
Ah, so you're only offended by technicalities. Because yes, you are correct, the bill does not directly state it will fund crack pipes. It does, however state it will provide "safe smoking devices" aka, CRACK PIPES.
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Purchase equipment and supplies to enhance harm reduction efforts, such as:
o Harm reduction vending machine(s), including stock for machines;
o Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
o Medication lock boxes;
o FDA-approved overdose reversal medication (as well as higher dosages
now approved by FDA);
o Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
o Safe smoking kits/supplies;
o Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections,
viral hepatitis);
o Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
o Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic
drugs;
o Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
o Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
o Wound care management supplies.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:13 am to whoisnickdoobs
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There are no cracks pipes in the kit. That's where the conservative side of propaganda pushers lied.
So what exactly, is "safe smoking devices"?
Why are you lefties running from this? This is what you voted for, just own up to it. You want a crack pipe in every hand, and a syringe in every arm. Own that shite.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 9:15 am
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