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re: Has Putin exposed the green energy nonsense
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:14 am to Klark Kent
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:14 am to Klark Kent
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free market capitalism
I think a little broader is the better approach:
Stakeholder capitalism
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:32 am to GeauxHouston
I agree with the overall sentiment but you lost me when you said that geothermal and hydro are the future. Those energy sources have been tapped for years across the world. There are very limited locations where those energy sources can be tapped and utilized. Solar and wind are diffuse energy sources that also have limited storage capacity and cant possibly meet the demand of a growing world, no matter how much they are scaled up. I agree with nuclear, its a very dense and powerful energy sources we need to put more effort into expanding but its not part of the "greenies" ambitions. O&G will never be eliminated from the energy mix, anyone who thinks otherwise is simply foolish. 20% of the world still uses biomass for their energy source and you want them to start using wind power and driving EVs? Come on, its ok to ambitious but you also have to be realistic
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:33 am to Datfish
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:42 am to theunknownknight
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Green energy fraud was never hidden
Most people are just retarded
For the most part, yes.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:44 am to Datfish
If anything, this has all strengthened the case for renewables and nuclear. Our economy should not rely on the predictability and reliability of despots like MBS or Putin.
We can't eliminate the need for O&G, but we can sure as hell lessen our dependency, perhaps to the point where we can become self-sufficient.
We can't eliminate the need for O&G, but we can sure as hell lessen our dependency, perhaps to the point where we can become self-sufficient.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:44 am to mmmmmbeeer
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nuclear.
The green movement is excluding nuclear.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:45 am to Korkstand
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Who thought it would be simple or a short term task?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:46 am to mmmmmbeeer
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this has all strengthened the case for renewables and nuclear.
This is how it appears the reaction is going to go.
Eliminate the dependency on Russian O&G.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:46 am to mmmmmbeeer
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We can't eliminate the need for O&G, but we can sure as hell lessen our dependency, perhaps to the point where we can become self-sufficient.
You progressives sound exactly like Trump.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:47 am to dewster
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The green movement is excluding nuclear.
The green movement is full of ideologues separated from reality
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:47 am to fightin tigers
quote:We don’t really have that.
This is how it appears the reaction is going to go.
Eliminate the dependency on Russian O&G.
Europe does and they can’t “quickly” end that parasitic relationship.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:47 am to Scruffy
If only we’d been energy independent under some president. Oh wait…
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:48 am to tigerinthebueche
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If only we’d been energy independent under some president. Oh wait…
Indeed, it was pretty cool when we were a net energy exporter under Obama.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:52 am to Scruffy
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We don’t really have that.
Europe does and they can’t “quickly” end that parasitic relationship.
That is the dependence I was referencing. Seems most of what has been said out of Europe is towards speeding up green and alternative energy.
A move back towards coal might be temporary if they want to speed up the reduction of Russian energy.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:52 am to Scruffy
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You progressives sound exactly like Trump.
It's kind of nuts. Like we are supposed to forget the last 5 years of their nonsense.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:52 am to mmmmmbeeer
Link?
I’m fine with it just want to make sure you aren’t talking out of your arse.
I’m fine with it just want to make sure you aren’t talking out of your arse.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 11:54 am
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:54 am to tigerinthebueche
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If only we’d been energy independent under some president. Oh wait…
Clinton was the last Pres to balance a budget. Twice.
Want to praise him?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:54 am to fightin tigers
quote:The issue is that there really isn’t a way to “speed that up”.
That is the dependence I was referencing. Seems most of what has been said out of Europe is towards speeding up green and alternative energy.
It all comes down to what the citizens of these nations are willing to accept.
If they wanted to make substantial changes, they should have done that 3-4 years ago.
They are WAY behind the eight ball.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:55 am to tigerinthebueche
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If only we’d been energy independent under some president. Oh wait…
Happened during Trump and Obama's tenure. Yeah I wish we were a bigger exporter. Europe can use some of our oil and coal right now.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 11:56 am
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:59 am to dewster
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The green movement is excluding nuclear.
People who live near proposed nuclear are excluding nuclear.
Want to see a solid red county turn into a bunch of tree huggers real quick? Announce a nuke plant in their backyard.
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