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re: “Hard times create strong men

Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:42 am to
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:42 am to
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What does one saying this propose? That we intentionally make things shitty in society so as to create “strong men?”


Not at all. Reread it. It doesn't suggest that it's intentional.

Take a look at all this woke bullshite going on.
Do you think that happens during hard times? You think anybody gives a shite about pronouns during a world War, or depression, etc.?
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:49 am to
When things stay utopia-esque for extended periods people get bored and devolve to manufacture a struggle. This in turn gives them something to fight for and creates a drive.

This shite ain't rocket surgery....


ETA: Mouse Paradise - Youtube
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 7:51 am
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5275 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:50 am to
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If anything hard times make shittier and more callous people


i know this s from the OP....but callous =/= shittier.

quote:

Life is a beautiful but very short gift.

100%.
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4951 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:00 am to
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It’s overall stupid.


Found the triggered weak man
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
23491 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:02 am to
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Currently we live in Disneyland. It's on the decline because we as a people NEED struggle. It's in our DNA. If it's not provided, it will be imagined or created. We are in the "imagined" stage.


100% truth. That's why half the country is taking some form of antidepressants.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
144561 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:03 am to
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Life is hard,
no it isn’t
Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
Texas
Member since Jun 2019
1601 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:04 am to
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Also just curious, how did those bad times “strengthen your faith”? Because God “helped you through?” What about the people that he didn’t help through? Like a Holocaust victim that prayed without ceasing and was still tortured and killed? What made your case so special?


We get it bro - you don't agree. Let it go, or pray on it, or meditate, or whatever it is that the "cool kids" do.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37688 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:06 am to
It’s not even a remotely true statement in a historical sense. It’s something people say when they don’t care about the historical details and decide to put their own feelings into their vision of the past.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21691 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:10 am to
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a little inflation

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:11 am to
No it’s true. It’s something authors throughout history note that once the eldest generation that witnessed the great previous calamity die out (roughly every 80 years), then their descendants largely forget about it and they believe that they can meet the same fate as their ancestors. They are almost always wrong. These are known as turnings, and for America we are right on the Fourth Turning. Sure this doesn’t apply to really ancient history (pre-Bronze Age), but after that it tends to do so.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37688 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:15 am to
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It’s something authors throughout history note that once the eldest generation that witnessed the great previous calamity die out (roughly every 80 years), then their descendants largely forget about it and they believe that they can meet the same fate as their ancestors.


Give me some authors who mention this. It seems you believe the Strauss-Howe generational theory, as though their work doesn’t have significant discontents.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:15 am to
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They glorify the Great Depression Era of men, but are scared of having to face what those men faced. They are weak, and therefore fell inadequate, and so they bemoan their state as being the result of the times they live in instead of it being themselves who are to blame.


It’s not that we’re glorifying it, it’s that we’re warning you it is coming and to be prepared. You all think it can’t happen to your generation since you think you’ve evolved past it, but no we are not immune to the horrors our ancestors experienced and inflicted upon one another.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
144561 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:16 am to
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Also just curious, how did those bad times “strengthen your faith”? Because God “helped you through?” What about the people that he didn’t help through? Like a Holocaust victim that prayed without ceasing and was still tortured and killed? What made your case so special?

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sabes que

Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
144561 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:19 am to
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it’s that we’re warning you it is coming and to be prepared.
OLM doing God’s work sounding the alarm for the OT



You’re the hero we need but maybe not the one we deserve
Posted by Techdog89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
927 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:20 am to
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Faith in God does not guarantee a trouble free life. Faith goes way beyond simple life on Earth. It’s not just about God giving you things you want on Earth or even helping you survive a bad situation. If it were, Jesus’ Disciples (and the Apostle Paul) wouldn’t have been tortured and killed (or exiled in John’s case).

Sure, God can and does heal, protect, and bless people in their Earthly lives. Why some people go through a bad situation and others don’t, I can’t answer. But whatever happens to you on this Earth, faith is about a relationship with God that will extend beyond your Earthly life and Earthly death.


I agree completely. Those who haven't recognized Jesus as their Savior don't understand that just because you are saved doesn't mean there will not suffering for Him. It's not easy to answer because we don't have all of the answers, only God does. Also, we live in an imperfect world where temptation and evil reside. Being a Christian doesn't release you from that and into a life of perfection while living on Earth. That comes when we receive our rewards in Heaven. Everyone's relationship with Jesus is different with a different mission. The outcome is the same for all who believe in Him, eternal life in Heaven after their Earthly death. But, they may endure many things while living their lives here. The key word is endure. Meaning that the goal of eternal life is the same but there will be challenges and trials all throughout life. Your life should be a living testimony of your faith in Jesus to sustain you in tough times. How you respond to adversity, how you treat your fellow man/woman, how you use the resources/skills you attain and your priorities in this life matter. But, remember that not every day is a tough day for everyone. There are many days that are wonderful and rewarding. Many just like to focus on the evil things of this world that becoming a Christian doesn't magically remove from their lives. My life is rewarding and I have many many challenges but I don't blame Jesus for them. Many of these challenges help me to learn the right way (Godly way) to respond to these challenges. It has made me a better husband, father, grand-father, son, brother, friend, neighbor and ultimately a better man.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 8:23 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:22 am to
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Currently we live in Disneyland. It's on the decline because we as a people NEED struggle. It's in our DNA. If it's not provided, it will be imagined or created. We are in the "imagined" stage.


Yep, just look at how the Left has turned on itself. Really legalizing gay marriage should have been the end of the civil rights movement since as far as I’m concerned everyone is now equal in the eyes of the law. But they have to keep on progressing and are now saying they have the right to indoctrinate kids in the most extreme ideologies against parents wishes up to and including mutilating kids.

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Hard times are coming. I might not see it but my son likely will.


It’s about to collapse. You’re going to live to see it barring some miracle or some unfortunate untimely death.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:24 am to
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whatever it is that the "cool kids" do


Imagine being so weak in your belief that you can only make fun of "the cool kids."
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:25 am to
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Give me some authors who mention this.


Tolkien for starters, although that’s not 80 but hundreds and thousands of years gaps.
Posted by Seen
Member since Aug 2022
1127 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:25 am to
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Do you realize that Trump put pretty much every tax payer and business on govt assistance?



Trump made a huge mistake folding during Covid and agreeing to a temporary shutdown. It's aggravating how people nowadays, not just politicians play politics. Liberals were the one's screaming for shutdowns and continued until right after elections. Nothing should have been shut down, Covid was a screw up from everybody. I assume that's what you are referring to, if not, nevermind.

Maddest I ever got at him was when he did a temporary shut down and then tried to open everything back up afterwards. Every liberal city, state kept their people restricted, even some GOP states did. Unbelievable how clinically retarded our voters and politicians are. Saying that, I'd still vote for him over the options we have. Hate him as a person, but definitely better than anything democrats can throw out there.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37688 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:27 am to
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OLM doing God’s work sounding the alarm for the OT
You’re the hero we need but maybe not the one we deserve


His intense histrionics and his lack of attention to detail allows him to create significant catastrophes in his head and play them out in the argumentation style of someone who never fully gained object permanence. He has already said that he doesn’t value a ‘liberal’ education, yet can seemingly comment on everything outside his purview (though I can’t tell if he actually has any expertise in anything).
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