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“Hard times create strong men

Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:03 am
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:03 am
strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times.” This quote is roundly praised every time it’s uttered on this board. It’s historically inaccurate, people will point to the fall of Rome etc but there are a thousand factors that go into that. It’s overall stupid. What does one saying this propose? That we intentionally make things shitty in society so as to create “strong men?” Life is hard, cancer, pets dying, car accidents, etc etc. We haven’t even begun to reach a level that is too good or “easy.” If anything hard times make shittier and more callous people, and the better things get, the better things get.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 12:04 am
Posted by justaniceguy
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:06 am to
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10310 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:08 am to
quote:

If anything hard times make shittier and more callous people
I disagree. Very difficult times brought me much closer to God and strengthened my faith and gratitude more than I thought possible.

Life is a beautiful but very short gift.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:12 am to
These people are taking on a societal level. Not religious/personal.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:14 am to
What exactly should we be doing to prevent “good times” in a society? Since they create such weak people that will inevitably create bad times? (Again this type of cycle is not historically supported at all)
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:19 am to
Also just curious, how did those bad times “strengthen your faith”? Because God “helped you through?” What about the people that he didn’t help through? Like a Holocaust victim that prayed without ceasing and was still tortured and killed? What made your case so special?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:24 am to
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What about the people that he didn’t help through? Like a Holocaust victim that prayed without ceasing and was still tortured and killed? What made your case so special?


Some people believe it was inevitable being the Sanhedrin chose to eliminate and reject christ.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24584 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:26 am to
Face it son. Our country is made up of a bunch of pussies. We are falling.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:29 am to
Just like God hardened Pharaoh’s heart(leaving him zero choice). But they are blessed because God “got them through hard times”, guess they are just more favored than those God chose to not help.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:33 am to
No we aren’t, pussies are the ones sky screaming that “we are falling” “ everything is going to shite”. Same people that would tell you how dangerous and crime ridden our country is today, while not knowing/including that the murder rate is half of what is was in 1980, and lower than it was in the 1960s.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:33 am to
quote:

Also just curious, how did those bad times “strengthen your faith”? Because God “helped you through?” What about the people that he didn’t help through? Like a Holocaust victim that prayed without ceasing and was still tortured and killed? What made your case so special?



Forget him. THat's Walt.

He plays poker for a living, and has never held a real "career" job.



To answer your question: Nobody on here is going to give you a straight answer. They don't know what hard times are and therefore, according to their logic, are weak men.

Most of them are the children of the Baby Boomers or the Silent Generations. They never experienced hard times and therefore glorify something they don't know about because they feel inadequate compared to their grandfathers.

"Hard Times" is what they fear, not hope for. Hence: them melting over a little inflation, comparing it to a Great Depression. Might have to trade in the BMW SUV for a domestic. Times are Tough!
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:38 am to
But what I don’t understand is this, if easy times are so bad, then why do they bemoan societal problems so much? Shouldn’t they be happy that as they see it things are going badly? After all, things going well will just create weak people right?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:38 am to


Almost forgot..obligatory
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:48 am to
quote:

But what I don’t understand is this, if easy times are so bad, then why do they bemoan societal problems so much? Shouldn’t they be happy that as they see it things are going badly? After all, things going well will just create weak people right?





You see, that's the irony.


And irony is something they don't understand.

Their concept of it came from a Pop Song in the 90s, which contained no real examples of irony.




They bitch and moan about how weak men are because everything is so easy these days, but then cry "Apocalypse" if the economy takes a slight downturn and their stocks dip.

They glorify the Great Depression Era of men, but are scared of having to face what those men faced. They are weak, and therefore fell inadequate, and so they bemoan their state as being the result of the times they live in instead of it being themselves who are to blame.

And they deflect their own feelings of inadequacy on others that they view as being inferior to themselves because they hold a different view of the world and masculinity (which, the ones they belittle and bemoan for not being "man" enough are the ones who are comfortable with their manhood. Another example of the irony in the situation).
Posted by TigerFlask
Colorado
Member since Oct 2004
311 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:00 am to
This. Well said and possible to argue a counter-point.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15602 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:02 am to
quote:

Their concept of it came from a Pop Song in the 90s, which contained no real examples of irony.


Which, ironically, was the ironic part of the song.
Posted by geauxjuice
t(-.-t)
Member since Jan 2007
4120 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:37 am to
what year did the hard times begin? am i strong?
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14650 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:38 am to
Boomers love them new Facebook memes
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:43 am to
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what year did the hard times begin? am I strong?
I don’t think so baw, sorry, might want to double check with them though cause I’m not sure. It’s dicey though because they are saying there were hard times, then easy, and now that’s making it hard again. But I think most of us are lumped into the easy time people, sorry baw.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12459 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:52 am to
There are 11 million unfilled jobs. At the same time, half of the work force is on govt. assistance. They vote for more free stuff. They think that they are living in hard times. God's wrath is on the way. There will be no tough guys.
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