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re: Happy Killdozer Day

Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:46 am to
Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
Texas
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:46 am to
St. Marvin of Granby, pray for us.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105102 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:47 am to
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Yes. He was also an air force vet. Hard to believe he had a 100% rate of no injuries just by pure accident.


Most air force personnel have one range day in basic training and never touch a weapon again.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20101 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:53 am to
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Had these tanks ruptured and exploded, anyone within one-half mile (800 m) of the explosion could have been endangered", the sheriff's department said.


I just want to say that this quote is complete and utter bullshite. A half mile is a long, long fricking way to be from an explosion. 100% hyperbolic.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26329 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:56 am to
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The documentary about him on Prime is basically a documentary on premeditation.

I mean, is there a non-premeditated way to weld a tractor into a veritable tank
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42040 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:06 am to
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The video I embedded in the OP covers the whole story.


That 12 minute video does not even remotely tell the whole story There are full documentaries that tell the whole story.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 11:06 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
74833 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:10 am to
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still support the mantra and the overall theme of sometimes reasonable men sometimes have to do unreasonable things because the government is being unreasonable

Marvin wasn't a reasonable man. I'd wager that 99% of the posters of the OT would have hated the man's guts if he were their neighbor.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39107 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:11 am to
Hot damn. That’s some Merica shite there:salute:
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156368 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:11 am to
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"half mile"

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I just want to say that this quote is complete and utter bullshite. A half mile is a long, long fricking way to be from an explosion. 100% hyperbolic.

Obviously the half-mile thing is exaggerated, but the point is people were near the propane tank that he shot many times at trying to make it explode. Of course not everyone within a half a mile would've been injured or killed, but the people who were close to it likely would have.

Btw I didn't post that quote for the "half a mile" thing. I posted it for the "he was shooting the tank" thing. But go ahead and ignore that some psycho was trying to blow up a huge propane tank and harm innocent people, I guess.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 11:16 am
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:13 am to
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There are full documentaries that tell the whole story.


so what’s the consensus on this dude? reasonable man pushed over the edge by “the system?” or maniac on a mission just looking for an excuse to go Rambo on the town?
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156368 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:14 am to
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he put a lot of innocent people in harm's way that day


Nope.

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Didn’t he shoot a gun at responding officers?


Yes.

So he shot at responding officers, but didn't put innocent people in harm's way? Or are you lumping the police officers on duty that day in with the mayor/local government people he hated? He also shot at them while driving around. He also tried to demolish occupied buildings. Which, you know...puts anyone around "in harm's way."
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 11:48 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156368 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:16 am to
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reasonable man pushed over the edge by “the system?” or maniac on a mission just looking for an excuse to go Rambo on the town?

Yes.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:17 am to
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Yes.


thanks for clarifying
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156368 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:17 am to


I legit think it's both. His local government fricked him over, no question. But he was also an unhinged lunatic.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:20 am to
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I legit think it's both. His local government fricked him over, no question. But he was also an unhinged lunatic


gotcha, I remember the incident, just never delved into it for details, there’s usually more to the story than meets the eye
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65414 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:20 am to
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Most air force personnel have one range day in basic training and never touch a weapon again.


That's nice. Someone with no weapons training at all could have shot someone in the scenario he was facing if they were able to actually load the weapon and fire it. He was obviously trying not to hit someone.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65414 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:22 am to
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That 12 minute video does not even remotely tell the whole story There are full documentaries that tell the whole story.


Nah, there are full documentaries that cover the City's version of the story in an effort to make themselves look blameless. What I shared covers the full story.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65414 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:23 am to
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His local government fricked him over, no question. But he was also an unhinged lunatic.


Probably not a good idea to agitate someone you believe to be an unhinged lunatic who is just keeping to himself and not bothering anybody.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:25 am to
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Probably not a good idea to agitate someone you believe to be an unhinged lunatic who is just keeping to himself and not bothering anybody.


naw baw, got to flush them out, make them expose themselves so you can rid them from society
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42040 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:28 am to
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so what’s the consensus on this dude? reasonable man pushed over the edge by “the system?” or maniac on a mission just looking for an excuse to go Rambo on the town?


I'd say it's both.

On one hand I get it and it's 100% bad arse, but on the other hand I don't think he's an American hero because he did some bad things that can't be justified simply by saying the government was screwing him over.

People want to overlook it because it's a cool story but even though he didn't kill anybody, he would have been perfectly fine with killing people. Blowing up the propane tank and shooting at cops has been touched on, but he also bulldozed buildings and a library that had people, including kids, in it when he was headed towards it. The video leaves that out obviously.

People on this board and certain posters in this thread have talked about people that commit suicide are cowards. Pretty sure fatkid went on a rant on the M/TV board about an actor that committed suicide being a coward even though he can;t relate to the mental illness that particular person was going through. Yet this guy gets a pass because, you know, it's a cool story.

I've watched two documentaries on it now and I get it, he was pushed over the edge and he did something pretty wild/cool that a lot of people wish they could do. I mean who doesn't want to give a big F you to the government and bulldoze buildings? But that doesn't mean that what he was right.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 11:31 am to
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. I mean who doesn't want to give a big F you to the government and bulldoze buildings? But that doesn't mean that what he was right.


sort of a no impact Timothy McVeigh?
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