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re: 'Hamilton' star-Washington & Jefferson statues should come down also

Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:57 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:57 am to
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Read the last sentence. I wasn't sure. But of course you're so eager to jump on my nuts.




Go read your posts in this thread. You're clearly trying to bring the Confederate monuments into this thread.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:57 am to
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you only say it's not healthy because you don't agree.


Giving a blanket statement of all discussion is "never bad" and all debate is "healthy" is ignorant.

Plain and simple.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:57 am to
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I don't see the problem either, but if the country who prevailed wants them down, that's pretty much what happens. Like I said, I get why the old CSA erected the statues, but if the USA wants then gone, they'll be gone. History is written by the winners, so to speak.



Not if the local taxpayers have anything to do with it. Censorship certainly wont help.

I believe the term thay most aptly applies is "states rights". The federal govt should have no involvement over state/city owned land, and most certainly should not have any say over what is allowed to be remembered and what can and cant be memorialized. It would be a gross overstep to censor anyone on free speech grounds alone.

Why do some people fear free speech so much?
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:57 am to
oh no, the guy who can't take any other opinion but his own thinks I'm a hack. What will I ever do?
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:57 am to
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Nationwide commercial


Oh yea. Well you heard him. Take them down...
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:58 am to
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What will I ever do?



Probably keep posting stupid things.
Posted by i am dan
NC
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:58 am to
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Hamilton' star-


Dude made $millions off this shite..
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:59 am to
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oh no, the guy who can't take any other opinion but his own thinks I'm a hack. What will I ever do?


Do what I do, sleep like a drunk baby... every damn night.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:00 am to
maybe, maybe not, I can do what I want. Try not to cry so hard about it.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 9:01 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:00 am to
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mahbe, maybe not, I can do what I want. Try not to cry so hard about it.




I'm crying so much right now.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:01 am to
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Anyone else think that the rest of the world is sitting back and pointing and laughing at us for flipping our shite over such trivial things?


I don't think the rest of the world thinks about us as much as we assume they do. If they rest of the world is talking about the US, the conversation starts and ends with Trump...and the NFL
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:06 am to
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I'd love to see the votes that said all this stuff needs to come down.


There is a reason they've come down in heavily democrat areas.

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And let's not even get started on the vandalism that happened in NC.


I agree the vandalism is ridiculous, regardless of which side you align.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
85111 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:07 am to
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There is a reason they've come down in heavily democrat areas.


With zero public vote. I'd say there's also a reason it's never gone on any public ballot.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
27213 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:08 am to
OK, let's just cut to the chase.

We need to ignore history that took place place while slavery , Reconstruction or Jim Crow existed.

For these ignorant fricks, history begins after the Civil Rights Act was signed.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14966 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:09 am to
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There is a reason they've come down in heavily democrat areas. 



Most city centers were Democrat. I can't imagine there's a shite ton of Confederate statues hanging out in some park off Rural Rd 1896 in BFE.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
86875 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:12 am to
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Not if the local taxpayers have anything to do with it. Censorship certainly wont help.


I said it should be a local issue.
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I believe the term thay most aptly applies is "states rights". The federal govt should have no involvement over state/city owned land, and most certainly should not have any say over what is allowed to be remembered and what can and cant be memorialized. It would be a gross overstep to censor anyone on free speech grounds alone.


When I referenced the USA, I meant the current population, not the federal government. If the CSA would have won, I'm sure the current population would be hostile to Lincoln and Grant statues.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:12 am to
Alamo should come down too. Offensive to Mexicans.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
85111 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:13 am to
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I'm sure the current population would be hostile to Lincoln and Grant statues.


Based on what?

I only see one political party trying to erase parts of history.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6081 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:16 am to
One world trade should come down too. Offensive to militant muslims.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:17 am to
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Washington & Jefferson statues should come down

no...

anything to do with the the CSA, it's generals, it's history, etc, should be remembered/memorialized in a museum.... anything to do with the USA, it's generals, it's history, etc, should be remembered/memorialized either in public or in a museum, depending on what the local taxpaying citizens want...

no reason to honor in memorial those that CHOSE to dishonor the US....
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