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re: Hall of Fame QB Brett Favre wants youth football outlawed
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:10 am to Peazey
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:10 am to Peazey
I have twin 12 year olds. One is a flyer on a competition cheer team. The other is a high level dancer. The dancer has been hurt far more than the flyer. In fact the flyer has never been injured in 5 years. It’s crazy, but it seems like dance is even worse.
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:15 am to Upperdecker
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Why not tell them to focus on school and be doctors or engineers?
Kids who engage in variety of activities outperform those who solely focus on school
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:25 am to JJ27
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like dance is even worse.
it's all fun and games until someone throws a tap and puts an eye out
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:38 am to Mike da Tigah
I agree. My son had already lettered in football by 4th grade. The same group of kids that started playing in 1st grade had won 3 consecutive Super Bowls & all played through their Sr year. 2 of them, my son being one, are now in college cheer (as the throwers). My son made All Star & was chosen in the Red Stick Army Bowl but had no desire to play college football. Thankfully he had a full academic scholarship & didn’t have to take the Athletic scholarship. I can’t stress the benefits of youth football when it comes to discipline & team camaraderie.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:44 am to LSUFanHouston
Again, I'll ask: where are these hordes of adults now in their 40s and 50s that are spit dribbling idiots from playing tackle football through high school? And when I played youth football we had suspension helmets. I don't know of a single guy my age that has cognitive or mental issues from playing football. If the problem is as prevalent as it is being stated, surely I'd know of at least one person whose brain has been scrambled. I'm willing to bet no posters in their 40s or 50s can name someone, either, who's had concussion related problems.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:46 am to SoFla Tideroller
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don't know of a single guy my age that has cognitive or mental issues
played with a few that had them prior to football
Posted on 6/24/18 at 12:29 pm to WPBTiger
The majority of people who have played football stopped before high school.
I don’t see vast numbers of people with CTE caused by youth football.
But I do see a significant number of pro players with CTE who have had lengthy careers preceded by college ball and high school ball.
It seems like the ban proposal has its priorities reversed. If we ban youth football and allow long pro careers, then I don’t see how that diminishes CTE cases. I do know that if you ban pro football, we probably would not see as many CTE cases. Maybe we let people play football too long... right, NFL “Iron Man” Brett Favre?
I don’t see vast numbers of people with CTE caused by youth football.
But I do see a significant number of pro players with CTE who have had lengthy careers preceded by college ball and high school ball.
It seems like the ban proposal has its priorities reversed. If we ban youth football and allow long pro careers, then I don’t see how that diminishes CTE cases. I do know that if you ban pro football, we probably would not see as many CTE cases. Maybe we let people play football too long... right, NFL “Iron Man” Brett Favre?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:03 pm to WPBTiger
So stupid. The contact is minimal in little league football.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:04 pm to Brazos
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The contact is minimal in little league football.
but once you're out of the rookie contract there are some serious bucks to be had
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:15 pm to OweO
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A 5th grader getting hit by another 5th grader is going to be equivalent to an 8th grader hitting another 8th grader and so on.
This is factually incorrect. Force is mass times acceleration. The only way this would be true is if the 5th graders and 8th grades are the same size. However, there's no reason to bring science into the argument. Let's just say things that sound good.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:36 pm to WPBTiger
I love football and played it all the way through college. With that said, I’m not sure how much longer we as a society can ignore the very real impacts CTE can have on a persons life.
For decades, industry and society ignored indisputable evidence that the dust inhaled working in coal mines could cause a plethora of potentially fatal conditions.
Football for sport and our entertainment. It’s a national pastime. In youth sports, there aren’t a whole hell of a lot of coaches teaching proper tackling technique. That’s one of the main reasons we took our son out of Pelican Park and put him into a different league.
We can continue to ignore CTE or downplay it, but if you do alittle research you can find disturbing cases across the age spectrum. For those with an open mind, Revisionist History Podcast had a really insightful episode on this very topic a few weeks ago.
For decades, industry and society ignored indisputable evidence that the dust inhaled working in coal mines could cause a plethora of potentially fatal conditions.
Football for sport and our entertainment. It’s a national pastime. In youth sports, there aren’t a whole hell of a lot of coaches teaching proper tackling technique. That’s one of the main reasons we took our son out of Pelican Park and put him into a different league.
We can continue to ignore CTE or downplay it, but if you do alittle research you can find disturbing cases across the age spectrum. For those with an open mind, Revisionist History Podcast had a really insightful episode on this very topic a few weeks ago.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:45 pm to SpqrTiger
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I don’t see vast numbers of people with CTE caused by youth football.
Effects such as dementia can’t be seen until much later in life though.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:56 pm to DCtiger1
I’m 51 and know and have known hundreds of people who played football. For those that only played through high school, I haven’t seen a problem.
During my son’s high school career, the worst concussions among his peers were two from soccer and one from basketball. Those were severe and lingered.
During my son’s high school career, the worst concussions among his peers were two from soccer and one from basketball. Those were severe and lingered.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:50 pm to Barstools
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Force is mass times acceleration. The only way this would be true is if the 5th graders and 8th grades are the same size. However, there's no reason to bring science into the argument. Let's just say things that sound good.
You are right. This is a big factor that needs to be looked at. If youth football is looking at age and grade without addressing weight problems are inevitable. Even with the same age and grade a 10 lb. difference can wreak havoc on the lighter player. If the heavier player is more mature physically and athletically the potential for him doing damage to the lighter, less physically mature player is increased.
I don't think legislating banning should be considered but local or state regulations pertaining to weight and physical maturity and development might be a possible first step.
At the blue chip high school level, the elite college levels, and at the pro level nothing can be done. The athletes are too big, too fast, and too coordinated to legislate away catastrophic injuries.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:09 pm to hankiba
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Under twelve football is safer than cheerleading when you look at the injury statistics. Its only when the boys get bigger and faster in high school that concussions become somewhat more likely.
Thanks Capt Obvious
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:16 pm to LSUAngelHere1
What level of scholly?
Big time or are we talking Nicholls, McNeese, etc?
And, how does one letter in 4th grade?
Big time or are we talking Nicholls, McNeese, etc?
And, how does one letter in 4th grade?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:16 pm to WPBTiger
Get rid of football and Daylight Savings Time. They both suck. 
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:56 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Again, I'll ask: where are these hordes of adults now in their 40s and 50s that are spit dribbling idiots from playing tackle football through high school? And when I played youth football we had suspension helmets. I don't know of a single guy my age that has cognitive or mental issues from playing football. If the problem is as prevalent as it is being stated, surely I'd know of at least one person whose brain has been scrambled. I'm willing to bet no posters in their 40s or 50s can name someone, either, who's had concussion related problems.
Problems may not show up until the person is in their 60s and 570s. Parkinson's disease does not usually show up until the 60s, and is believed to be related to head trauma, Mohammad Ali is a good example. I know more than a few people that developed Parkinson's in their late 60s and 70s, they all played High School and some college ball, Parkinson's occurs almost 4:1 more frequently in men than women, I would like to see the percentage of males with it that played football. And that is just one neurological disease, there are others like ALS, and dementia that can be linked to early head trauma.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:01 pm to 257WBY
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I’m 51 and know and have known hundreds of people who played football. For those that only played through high school, I haven’t seen a problem. During my son’s high school career, the worst concussions among his peers were two from soccer and one from basketball. Those were severe and lingered.
Check back with them in 20 years. What people don't seem to understand is yes, cheerleading causes more injuries at the time they are engaged in the activity, CTE is causing neurological disorders that may not cause outward symptoms until the person is in their late 50s.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:02 pm to WPBTiger
Will happen in a few years anyway
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