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re: Guy drives car through protest then shoots protester.

Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:40 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:40 am to
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So the guy who got shot at point blank range lived? I'm calling bullshite on this and sounds like a setup. Don't put anything past the liberal extremists in the Pacific Northwest
You've never heard of someone being shot with a handgun at close range in te arm and live?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:41 am to
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Interview of guy who got shot
If the road was truly closed, and if the driver was truly driving erratically and putting people in danger, then good for this dude for trying to stop him.


A lot of "ifs" in there as we obviously don't seem to know the full story, or to be fair, I don't know the full story.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:42 am to
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Looks like self defense to me
Is there confirmation on what the driver was doing before this?

Seems like went through or passed a barricade, do we know for sure whether or not he was driving erratically and endangering others?
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24226 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:45 am to
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What about Drew Brees or Joe Burrow ??? Go and look at their recent statements.

Not sure using Drew Brees in the context of your post helps your argument one bit.

He gave his honest opinion to a question he was asked and was treated the same way you are accusing others as acting. His opinion was shouted down at every turn because it was not in lock step line with the mob. They piled on until he apologized and then continued to pile on. This whole thing is not about equality. Not in the slightest.
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Different opinions and opening a discussion here is frowned upon.
so you don't have a leg to stand on with the quote above.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 11:46 am
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:47 am to
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Seems like went through or passed a barricade,


What makes you say that?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:03 pm to
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So, the police gave up and simply refused enforce the law, ignoring law abiding citizen's right to travel on the roads their taxes pay for, thus deferring to criminals?

I realize I am being facetious. However, when your very actions make you a criminal, you have no legal leg to stand on.



I really don't know what point you're trying to make. Police and city officials across the country have made the decision, in the interest of public safety, to close certain streets to allow protesters to march and protest on those streets.

But even it wasn't closed, and those people were breaking the law by congregating in it, that doesn't give the operator of the car the legal right to drive though them and injure or kill them. And to be clear, I doubt that was the driver's intention.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75021 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:10 pm to
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I really don't know what point you're trying to make.

You know exactly the point I am making.

Police, or the mayors and city councils, in these cities are refusing to uphold law and order and protect the rights of law abiding citizens. Once "Protesters" block a roadway (without proper permits), they are no longer law abiding citizens. It is a shame that leaders have sacrificed the rights of law abiding citizens for the sake of criminals. I even provided an example where this was not allowed to happen.

Argue the merits of it all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that leaders are picking and choosing who's rights matter.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 12:16 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:14 pm to
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What makes you say that?

The few articles I read state the man appears to go through a barricade in the street. Which is why I said "seems like" and made about 3 posts clearly stating I don't actually know what happened.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:15 pm to
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So, the police gave up and simply refused enforce the law, ignoring law abiding citizen's right to travel on the roads their taxes pay for, thus deferring to criminals?

Imagine thinking closing a public road makes the police a criminal.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 12:16 pm
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14772 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:16 pm to
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You think that guy was trying to steal his car? Would've been a pretty slow getaway with that crowd blocking the street.



I think he was carjacking him. That's doesn't mean he wanted his car. Maybe he just wanted to drag him out and kick him in the head, with other "comrades". Doesn't matter, IMHO.

Here in Louisiana it's defined as someone trying to gain illegal forcible entry into an occupied vehicle. Not sure what the laws say there, but I'd say what happened in the video met that criteria. Either way, at that moment the laws there wouldn't have stopped this driver from getting badly beaten and left on the pavement- but that Glock certainly did.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75021 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:17 pm to
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Imagine thinking closing a public road makes the police a criminal.



Closing a public road doesn't, assuming you have the authority to close it.
Being part of a mob that blocks a public roadway does.

I saw your edit. Police closed the roads because children insisted on blocking them. It was easier for the police than doing their actual jobs.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 12:19 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75021 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:24 pm to
And let's say that you own a business in one of these cities that "protests" have been going on for days. Let's say that business is on one of the "closed" roads. Let's keep in mind that your business was forced to close by the government for the better part of 3 months due to corona. Let's say those restrictions were finally lifted and your business was finally allowed to reopen, and now the police are allowing "protesters" to block and close the road your business is on FOR DAYS while telling you, a law abiding business owner, that it is best to, "Close your business and board up your windows" for, "safety".

What bizarro world are we living in? The police should do their damn jobs and protect the rights of law abiding citizens, not kowtow to fricking criminals.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26671 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:25 pm to
They attacked the man's car early on with something off the windshield and he stopped. Why would he stop if he intended to run people down?

Then a moron tried to drag him out of the car. He'd made no aggressive moves, no one had been hit, he was stopped. His life was in danger.

He shot said moron. He then got the hell out of there and fired no more shots, but he could have blown away a bunch of said morons.

Clear case of self defense.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:26 pm to
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Closing a public road doesn't, assuming you have the authority to close it.

Who put the barricade up? Protestors? Is that confirmed?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:27 pm to
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If the road was truly closed


If the road was truly closed, these azzhold protesters shouldn't have been on it.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75021 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:28 pm to
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Closing a public road doesn't, assuming you have the authority to close it.
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Who put the barricade up? Protestors? Is that confirmed?


That was posted before the guy edited his post. Besides, try reading the rest and using your brain.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:32 pm to
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If the road was truly closed, these azzhold protesters shouldn't have been on it.

What?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:32 pm to
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That was posted before the guy edited his post. Besides, try reading the rest and using your brain.

So you're not sure then, that's all I got out of that.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75021 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:35 pm to
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So you're not sure then, that's all I got out of that.

Nope. I am 100% sure the police closed the road because criminals were playing in it, and that was a much easier option than doing their job, dispersing the "protesters" and upholding law and order for the law abiding citizens.

I can draw you a picture if that would help.
Posted by moester75
Anne Arundel County, MD
Member since Oct 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:35 pm to
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The guy videoing this sounds like an enormous pussy.


Hahahahahaha,.....,.Thank you Prom for making me laugh I needed it bad. It was amusing how fast that crowd scattered when some rounds started going down range though. Like Moses parting the Red Sea.
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