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re: Grand Teton's Famous Grizzly 399 Is Dead

Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18034 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:01 pm to
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I look down on trophy hunting. Everyone should.
define trophy hunting? I try to take mature animals as all hunters should. What’s wrong with that?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18034 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:03 pm to
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they would have loved to have killed this beloved grizzly bear that was admired by hundreds of thousands of people...
the beloved grizzly bear doesn’t know it’s beloved. Doesn’t know it has a name. It’s a beast that would eat you with a smile on its face. I don’t want any animal hunted to extinction but responsible game management is crucial across the ecosystem
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77574 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:03 pm to
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 I try to take mature animals as all hunters should. What’s wrong with that?
Anthropomorphization and subsequent feelings .
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18034 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:04 pm to
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Anthropomorphization and subsequent feelings .
yeah I know that’s the real answer. They think grizzly’s are teddy bears. Just like the idiot grizzly man and his head ended up in the belly of a beast
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
21922 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:06 pm to
Shut the frick up idiots. I hate rednecks
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77574 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:08 pm to
I was in the Tetons and Idaho earlier this year. Locals were telling me grizzlies were showing up in rural areas in neighborhoods/subdivision-like settiings in Idaho. I'm battling raccoons at my house and those people now have grizzlies. It's ridiculous.
This post was edited on 10/24/24 at 1:09 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72584 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:13 pm to
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Grand Teton's Famous Grizzly 399 Is Dead
Meanwhile, our resident bear lives on....



Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3724 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:37 pm to
Build a wall to keep the bears inside.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18034 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:51 pm to
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Shut the frick up idiots.
go live with the grizzly’s
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4068 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:14 pm to
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went to GTNP for the first time in 2019. The next spring is when she came out of hibernation with these quads. That’s when I started following her. She was able to raise them to the age of 2 when she put them out on their own. If you know anything about grizzlies you know that this is an incredible feat with all of the predators in this area. She was very special.


The greatest threat to a sow and her cubs is another grizzly, specifically a boar.

What’s absolutely amazing and scientifically validated by the naturalist and biologists at GTNP & Yellowstone is that they specifically tracked her and were amazed at her success rate of rearing cubs. They also figured out through observation that she had specifically learned or been taught to rear her cubs near the tourist areas and the roadways that eventually took her life. The large boars usually live wild in the back country and hardly ever venture into the park boundaries until the rutting season for bears.

Also, they observed her interactions with other females that the biologists knew were her offspring, some more than a decade old and the familiar bond was strong. They observed the sows getting along as one might an expect a reunited mother & daughter might act as they watched over the two sets of cubs play and forage together.

I wish too damn I could find the original link, particularly for the images of 399 and the Tetons, but it’s buried somewhere in a Petapixel archive.

Petapixel
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71112 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:21 pm to
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They also figured out through observation that she had specifically learned or been taught to rear her cubs near the tourist areas and the roadways that eventually took her life.

It is notable, too, that she did that and seemingly never had a negative encounter with humans. I wonder if she ever even needed to be hazed? She was a smart bear that learned a lot in her life it seems.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13453 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:34 pm to
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She was a smart bear that learned a lot in her life it seems.


We should kill her, because, why the hell not?
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4068 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:49 pm to
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that she did that and seemingly never had a negative encounter with humans.


There was a thread somewhere on TD that I included the link to her incredible story, but in the story it mentions that she charged and essentially ran over a set of hikers on a blind turn, but she had her cubs with her and it was no more than that, no bites nor scratches.

Evidently, both GTNP and Yellowstone have a “wild” policy in place for human-bear interactions and won’t put bears down for being bears, excluding predatory attacks.

I heard about 399 and became intrigued with the story as my daughter’s school has a partnership with the Tetons Science Schools. She’s been fortunate enough to make three trips to the Tetons and two to the Smokies. An awesome and incredibly affordable experience for middle-school and high school aged kids to be involved in hands on research while be in the wild and trekking all day.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71112 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:55 pm to
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There was a thread somewhere on TD that I included the link to her incredible story, but in the story it mentions that she charged and essentially ran over a set of hikers on a blind turn, but she had her cubs with her and it was no more than that, no bites nor scratches.

Evidently, both GTNP and Yellowstone have a “wild” policy in place for human-bear interactions and won’t put bears down for being bears, excluding predatory attacks.

That's one of the better policies they've put in place. Those encounters happen, but they are truly a risk of being in bear country.

You may be interested in a podcast called Tooth and Claw. It is an animal attack podcast that covers attack stories done by two brothers and their friend. One of the hosts is a bear biologist, and the main point of the podcast is centered on conservation and understanding. They've done everything from bees to bears to sharks and chimps.
This post was edited on 10/24/24 at 3:56 pm
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
7729 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 4:00 pm to
If she has been breeding that long and has been that successful I guess there are enough bears that interbreeding isn't a problem from her offspring?

I bet that put one helluva dent in that vehicle.
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