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re: Grammy's....who has real talent in your opinion?

Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:02 am to
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:02 am to
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You listed Metallica dude. As an example of rock n roll?


They were in the best rock category as well. Which is why I listed them. I don't particularly care for Metallica.

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Also, have you listened to the song Pain from the newest album? If that's not firmly in the category of kick arse guitar straight awesome rock music, I don't know what the frick is.


Ya, I have. It's Alternative, not rock.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:02 am to
The War on Drugs annihilate all those bands except for Metallica. And don't the Grammys have a separate category for hard rock stuff anyway?

What kind of band do you categorize WOD as?
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:02 am to
I don't have as much a problem with them being included as I do with music no one would mistake for anything but rock and roll essentially being excluded from radio and pop culture (Ghost, The Sword, Clutch, All Them Witches, Mastodon, etc).

The same issue is happening in country music with hick/hop (Florida/Georgia Line, Sam Hunt, etc) being blasted all over "country" radio while Sturgil Simpson and Jason Isbell and Texas Country bands like Turnpike Troubadours get zero play despite sold out concerts and critic success.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:03 am to
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Answer my question first. Do you think War on Drugs play the same type of music as the bands I listed?



Pain

That's rock music dude. I don't know how you can argue it's not.
Posted by meaux5
New York, NY
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:03 am to
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Zero good raps and movies!


in your opinion, sure.

In mine, you couldn't be more wrong.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:04 am to
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Ya, I have. It's Alternative, not rock.


always so focused on labels
Posted by meaux5
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:05 am to
Haven't you heard? Gibson doesn't make real guitars anymore.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:05 am to
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music no one would mistake for anything but rock and roll essentially being excluded from radio and pop culture (Ghost, The Sword, Clutch, All Them Witches, Mastodon, etc).



This I am in full agreement with you on.

I've seen Mastodon 3 times and The Sword twice. Fantastic shows. Criminally underrated bands.

But I'm not going to sit here and let someone say War On Drugs isn't Rock music or a real band. They are. And they're one of the few solid ones around.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:06 am to
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always so focused on labels


Because labels and categories exist for a reason.

They should have been in Alternative and won that one. They'd deserve it.

They don't deserve winning a category they're a lesser fit for.

It's like putting Bruno Mars in country and him winning because he's a good musician. Sure, he deserves to win an award for his talent...but you just fricked an actual country group from winning their correct category.

This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 11:08 am
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:07 am to
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Grammy's....who has real talent in your opinion?


U2 and Elton John were the only two with talent on the entire show.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 11:07 am
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:07 am to
Bro, rock music is only good shite like breaking Benjamin and 10 years

Is that an organ I hear in some of those War on Drugs songs? Lol you can't distort an organ bro
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:07 am to
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Mastodon


That's like pop rock masquerading as hard rock
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:07 am to
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They should have been in Alternative and won that one. They'd deserve it.

They don't deserve winning a category they're a lesser fit for.


What's your opinion of the definition of "alternative" and "rock"?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:08 am to
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That's like pop rock masquerading as hard rock




But we agree it's rock tho
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:08 am to
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alternative


I think he thinks this means alternative rock, but it isn't. fricking cee lo won it.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:08 am to
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But we agree it's rock tho


100%

I like it, I just prefer prog and djent stuff.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 11:09 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:08 am to
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What's your opinion of the definition of "alternative" and "rock"?



You're going to actually argue that WOD is a better fit in the Rock category over Alternative?

Seriously?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:09 am to
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What's your opinion of the definition of "alternative" and "rock"?


I'll admit its pretty subjective, especially with The National winning "alternative"

You could argue The National is a more traditional rock band than War on Drugs
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:09 am to
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You're going to actually argue that WOD is a better fit in the Rock category over Alternative?


That's not a definition.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:10 am to
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That's not a definition.


Answer my question.

Does WOD more closely fit the artists found in the Alternative Category, or the Rock category?

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