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Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by GentleJackJones 
on 11/18/20 at 9:55 am
on 11/18/20 at 9:55 am
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2For those of you who attended and graduated one of the United States Service Academies or a military college (The Citadel, Virginia Military Institute), will you please describe your experience - academically, socially, daily cadet life, post-graduate, and so forth?
The oldest is definitely interested. He has really good grades and solid extracurriculars; however, it's my understanding that he's got a better shot at an Ivy League school than the Service academies. Is this true?
The oldest is definitely interested. He has really good grades and solid extracurriculars; however, it's my understanding that he's got a better shot at an Ivy League school than the Service academies. Is this true?
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by Beessnax 
on 11/18/20 at 9:57 am to GentleJackJones
on 11/18/20 at 9:57 am to GentleJackJonesYou should have went the travel ball route with your son. I think you would have been a good coach-dad
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by tiger91 
on 11/18/20 at 9:59 am to GentleJackJones
on 11/18/20 at 9:59 am to GentleJackJonesMy daughter has a friend at the Naval Academy, a friend at the Air Force Academy and a friend at West Point ... I know for fact that they all had legislative help from their state rep/senator to get in. The Naval Academy and West Point friend ended up doing a year at a state university and then got accepted for their second year at their academy of choice.
IDK how much this helps. I can also add that all 3 are very happy with their choices.
IDK how much this helps. I can also add that all 3 are very happy with their choices.
This post was edited on 11/18 at 10:00 am
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by slacker130 
on 11/18/20 at 10:01 am to GentleJackJones
on 11/18/20 at 10:01 am to GentleJackJonesquote:
t's my understanding that he's got a better shot at an Ivy League school than the Service academies. Is this true?
Hard to say, but with the service academies, you need a congressional recommendation. If you're in a populous area, you're going to have more competition for those limited recs.
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by CharlesLSU on 11/18/20 at 10:02 am to GentleJackJones
on 11/18/20 at 10:02 am to GentleJackJonesTrue.....Harvard is far easier to get in.
Your boy will have to have academics for sure but will have to show strong leadership skills through extracurriculars.
Acceptance rate is 11% out of 11k.
You also have to have congressional recommendation from a senator.......much harder to get than you think.
Its rockstar and super hard work. Plus, 5 years active duty and 3 years reserve.
Your boy will have to have academics for sure but will have to show strong leadership skills through extracurriculars.
Acceptance rate is 11% out of 11k.
You also have to have congressional recommendation from a senator.......much harder to get than you think.
Its rockstar and super hard work. Plus, 5 years active duty and 3 years reserve.
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by UndercoverBryologist on 11/18/20 at 10:02 am to GentleJackJones
Secondary question, but one I've always wanted to know as a non-military person surrounded by military people:
Who makes the best Marine Corps officers: Naval Academy, NROTC, or OCS Quantico?
Who makes the best Marine Corps officers: Naval Academy, NROTC, or OCS Quantico?
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by blueridgeTiger on 11/18/20 at 10:02 am to GentleJackJones
on 11/18/20 at 10:02 am to GentleJackJonesI attended the Air Force Academy. I received my appointment through my local congressman.
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by GentleJackJones on 11/18/20 at 10:02 am to slacker130
on 11/18/20 at 10:02 am to slacker130quote:
Hard to say, but with the service academies, you need a congressional recommendation. If you're in a populous area, you're going to have more competition for those limited recs.
Nashville - and I don't know a soul nor have an idea on how or who to meet or going about that.
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by lsupride87 on 11/18/20 at 10:05 am to CharlesLSU
on 11/18/20 at 10:05 am to CharlesLSUquote:Harvards acceptance rate is 4.5%
Acceptance rate is 11%
It is harder to get into the Ivy schools than the service academies
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by CharlesLSU on 11/18/20 at 10:06 am to GentleJackJones
on 11/18/20 at 10:06 am to GentleJackJonesDoes he happen to be an Eagle Scout?
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by usc6158 
on 11/18/20 at 10:06 am to GentleJackJones
on 11/18/20 at 10:06 am to GentleJackJonesquote:
Nashville - and I don't know a soul nor have an idea on how or who to meet or going about that.
Call your representatives local office (not the DC office). They should have a staffer whose job it is to coordinate military academy appointments and can walk you through the process.
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by CharlesLSU on 11/18/20 at 10:06 am to lsupride87
on 11/18/20 at 10:06 am to lsupride87quote:
It is harder to get into the Ivy schools than the service academies
no. its not.
That acceptance rate is not linear
ETA: I will concede its on par
This post was edited on 11/18 at 10:07 am
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by Mid Iowa Tiger 
on 11/18/20 at 10:09 am to GentleJackJones
on 11/18/20 at 10:09 am to GentleJackJonesquote:
it's my understanding that he's got a better shot at an Ivy League school than the Service academies. Is this true?
Fairly true for several reasons. 1) there are more Ivy League schools than service academies 2) there are larger classes in the Ivy League schools 3) the combination of 1&2 make entrance crazy competitive.
If he has the CV to get appointed he definitely has the CV for an Ivy League school.
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by slacker130 on 11/18/20 at 10:09 am to GentleJackJones
on 11/18/20 at 10:09 am to GentleJackJonesDoes he want to be in the military?
My $.02 I'll give unrequested- As someone who has served with lots of folks from multiple commissioning sources, consider looking for an ROTC scholarship to a good university. He'll have a normal-ish college experience, receive $ for school and still commission.
I feel like my friends from the academies didn't really have fun, at all. But what do I know?
My $.02 I'll give unrequested- As someone who has served with lots of folks from multiple commissioning sources, consider looking for an ROTC scholarship to a good university. He'll have a normal-ish college experience, receive $ for school and still commission.
I feel like my friends from the academies didn't really have fun, at all. But what do I know?
This post was edited on 11/18 at 10:10 am
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by Y.A. Tittle on 11/18/20 at 10:12 am to CharlesLSU
on 11/18/20 at 10:12 am to CharlesLSUquote:
quote:
It is harder to get into the Ivy schools than the service academies
no. its not.
That acceptance rate is not linear
ETA: I will concede its on par
It's sort of apples to oranges in a lot of ways, though. They aren't exactly judging by the same criteria. To some extent, of course, but there are other things that come in play with the military academies that don't with Ivy League schools.
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by lsupride87 on 11/18/20 at 10:12 am to CharlesLSU
on 11/18/20 at 10:12 am to CharlesLSUquote:Not even close
ETA: I will concede its on par
Harvard had 40,428 applicants last year, and 1,980 were accepted
Mean SAT score was 1510
Wespoint had 12,294 applicants, and 1,210 were admitted
Mean SAT score as 1287
The type of student to get accepted into Ivys they just dont make much of. Ture academic braniacs. Military academies are looking for every smart, but still normal humans
This post was edited on 11/18 at 10:14 am
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by CatfishJohn on 11/18/20 at 10:13 am to GentleJackJones
on 11/18/20 at 10:13 am to GentleJackJonesHelps if you have a Congressional connection.
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by nobigdeal69 on 11/18/20 at 10:17 am to GentleJackJones
on 11/18/20 at 10:17 am to GentleJackJonesMy sister graduated from the Naval Academy. She ran track for them, so that helped her get in.
She graduated with a degree in aeronautical engineering and is now a stay at home mom.
She went to flight school after commencement, which adds even more time to your service commitment post graduation.
She graduated with a degree in aeronautical engineering and is now a stay at home mom.
She went to flight school after commencement, which adds even more time to your service commitment post graduation.
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by NWarty on 11/18/20 at 10:18 am to slacker130
on 11/18/20 at 10:18 am to slacker130quote:
I feel like my friends from the academies didn't really have fun, at all. But what do I know?
I went to Officer Basic Course with seemingly the entire West Point Football team. Those guys, hoo boy, liked to throw down and party (this was also before BOLC was a thing).
re: Graduates of Service Academies or military collegesPosted by nobigdeal69 on 11/18/20 at 10:19 am to slacker130
on 11/18/20 at 10:19 am to slacker130quote:
My $.02 I'll give unrequested- As someone who has served with lots of folks from multiple commissioning sources, consider looking for an ROTC scholarship to a good university. He'll have a normal-ish college experience, receive $ for school and still commission.
I feel like my friends from the academies didn't really have fun, at all. But what do I know?
I'd probably second this. My sister's time at the Academy sounded like a boarding school.
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