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re: Got orders to Ramstein Air Base today-Tell me what you know!
Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:26 am to soccerfüt
Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:26 am to soccerfüt
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tl/dr: Stupid Americans don't GET Germans
News Flash: Germans were like that before there was a USA. Get used to it.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:34 am to CuseTiger
A wedding and some business in July.
I have got to get up there (to Syracuse).
Everybody I've known from there (Syracuse U. and the area) have been straight-up folks.
If I do, the first round is on me.
Hope all is well with you!

I have got to get up there (to Syracuse).
Everybody I've known from there (Syracuse U. and the area) have been straight-up folks.
If I do, the first round is on me.
Hope all is well with you!
Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:38 am to redstick13
In K-town there was a little anti-American sentiment.
But with Ramstein, Sembach, Lansdstuhl, Vogelweigh, ROB, and all of the other bases close by, they had a large concentration of American males living there. Many German chicks would do anything to hook up with an American GI and come back to the states.
Once we got away from the large US population center, the Germans were very nice.
I was a pre-teen when I lived there. As kids, we got along great. They were fascinated by our baseball gloves.
My recommendation is to get off the base as often as possible. Luxomberg is an easy drive.
The Rhine and Mosel Rivers offer lots of castles to tour relatively cheap or for free.
But with Ramstein, Sembach, Lansdstuhl, Vogelweigh, ROB, and all of the other bases close by, they had a large concentration of American males living there. Many German chicks would do anything to hook up with an American GI and come back to the states.
Once we got away from the large US population center, the Germans were very nice.
I was a pre-teen when I lived there. As kids, we got along great. They were fascinated by our baseball gloves.
My recommendation is to get off the base as often as possible. Luxomberg is an easy drive.
The Rhine and Mosel Rivers offer lots of castles to tour relatively cheap or for free.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:43 am to Rebel
This was a short hike from where I lived. Kind of cool to have a place like that to play as an 11 year old.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:57 am to soccerfüt
I was an AF brat. Never lived in Germany, but did live in England. I don't know if you've lived overseas with your family yet. I will implore you not to be one of the families that get there and spend all your time in the base and then come back to the states and complain about how there was nothing to do here and you hated it.
Your children have an opportunity to exoerience things most will never get to. The oersoective they get from living abroad can change their outlook entirely from the who never get that chance. Expose them to as much as you can while there. Except schools. Always keep them in American schools. It's not that schools in other countries are bad, it's that our system is so different they stand a good chance of being all screwed up when it's time to transfer back stateside.
Most of all, enter into this as an adventure. And realize how privileged you are to get to live in another nation and explore other cultures. If you don't already, cultivate an interest in history. And do the same for your kids. It's amazing what you will be able to see there.
Your children have an opportunity to exoerience things most will never get to. The oersoective they get from living abroad can change their outlook entirely from the who never get that chance. Expose them to as much as you can while there. Except schools. Always keep them in American schools. It's not that schools in other countries are bad, it's that our system is so different they stand a good chance of being all screwed up when it's time to transfer back stateside.
Most of all, enter into this as an adventure. And realize how privileged you are to get to live in another nation and explore other cultures. If you don't already, cultivate an interest in history. And do the same for your kids. It's amazing what you will be able to see there.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:10 am to BR Tiger
I agree 100%.
I was an only child. My parents took me just about somewhere every other weekend. We had good friends in Hahn. We would usually meet somewhere and go on volks marches.
My parented were also good about allowing me to go with other families on weekend trips.
Since I didn't live on base, there wasn't as much typical US things to do. There were a few American kids to hang out with. I didn't fully appreciate the experience until I had been back to the states for a few years.
I was an only child. My parents took me just about somewhere every other weekend. We had good friends in Hahn. We would usually meet somewhere and go on volks marches.
My parented were also good about allowing me to go with other families on weekend trips.
Since I didn't live on base, there wasn't as much typical US things to do. There were a few American kids to hang out with. I didn't fully appreciate the experience until I had been back to the states for a few years.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:16 am to Breadstick Gun
Caught a hop on a C5A out of there in 1989. cost $10
Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:31 am to soccerfüt
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Stupid Americans don't GET Germans
News Flash: Germans were like that before there was a USA. Get used to it.
USA was a country first.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:56 am to Breadstick Gun
Go to K-town and get tickets to 1. FC Kaiserslautern soccer games. An incredible gameday experience.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:00 am to hendersonshands
quote:Technically and factually incorrect. The German States were a number of independent sovereign countries hundreds of years before America was discovered. They joined together into the modern single state of Germany in 1871.
USA was a country first.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:32 am to soccerfüt
I'm not in the military, so perhaps that colors it some (though the military men I know love Germany and Germans), but my experiences in Germany have been nothing short of amazing. The people are extremely welcoming, at least in the part of Germany I've been to (southern). I've had more conversations with random Germans than any other country I've visited. Obviously, don't be a loudmouthed, dickhead stereotypical American tourist who whines about the taste of schnitzel or why there is so much pork in the German diet and actually try to learn German. That always makes it easier. But shite, man, don't go in with reservations. The German people are actually very similar to Americans in a lot of ways (or at least how we like to think of ourselves). You'll have a great time.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:42 am to soccerfüt
I talked to a lady on my flight to Frankfurt last month who is a head doctor for a unit at the Landstuhl hospital. She is looking to hire a nurse practitioners in my wifes specialty. 2-3 yr assignment working for the U.S. government. We are considering it after my wife gets a little more experience under her belt. I actually work for a German company but even with that not sure if they would have anything over there for me as I don't speak German and the corporate office is probably 4-5hrs away.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:49 am to TheWhizzinator
That's where Doug reunited with a Chappy after he rescued his Dad and single handedly destroyed a middle eastern country with an F16.
Never say die. Iron Eagle!
Never say die. Iron Eagle!
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:02 am to Breadstick Gun
I was stationed there from 2012 to 2014, and looking back at it wish I extended.
hopefully the wife lets you go out drinking
Do not live on base. Wtf is the point of being stationed overseas and then living with all Americans. I lived in downtown K-town with only one other American on my street. It was a great experience getting out of my comfort zone and being around a new culture. Especially at first it can be over bearing but its very rewarding in the long run. Things like buying groceries and beer off base is something new and different. Shopping off base is actually cheaper and better quality, but most people don't want to leave their bubble.
When living off base you get OHA, its different than BHA. You don't get to keep what you don't spend. But.... You make that up and then some with COLA and then the money they give you to pay bills which you keep. Thats where making sure you find a quality house is important, so you don't get fricked on bills. Sure living on base you don't have to pay rent and basic bills. Be warned though, if you ask to be put on base housing you might not be on Ramstein which does have nice places to live. You most likely will be put on the other base Vogelweh which is almost in K-town. The trash you want to avoid live over there.
But you make more money off base. With everything included at the time I made 56k as an E-4 who had been in less than 3 years.
You should get two cars shipped on married orders.
All in all it was a great experience, especially when I was single. The wife and kids do limit some of the things you can do when traveling but its still a great location. I'm actually trying to get back there or to Stuttgart next.
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-Married
-2 kids
-E-4
hopefully the wife lets you go out drinking
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I'm super pumped but what should I know?
Where should I live? On base/Off base?
Do not live on base. Wtf is the point of being stationed overseas and then living with all Americans. I lived in downtown K-town with only one other American on my street. It was a great experience getting out of my comfort zone and being around a new culture. Especially at first it can be over bearing but its very rewarding in the long run. Things like buying groceries and beer off base is something new and different. Shopping off base is actually cheaper and better quality, but most people don't want to leave their bubble.
When living off base you get OHA, its different than BHA. You don't get to keep what you don't spend. But.... You make that up and then some with COLA and then the money they give you to pay bills which you keep. Thats where making sure you find a quality house is important, so you don't get fricked on bills. Sure living on base you don't have to pay rent and basic bills. Be warned though, if you ask to be put on base housing you might not be on Ramstein which does have nice places to live. You most likely will be put on the other base Vogelweh which is almost in K-town. The trash you want to avoid live over there.
But you make more money off base. With everything included at the time I made 56k as an E-4 who had been in less than 3 years.
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I'm going to sell my truck. Don't want to pay to have it shipped as the AF will already be shipping my wife's car. Will probably buy a car with cash to use while I'm there.
You should get two cars shipped on married orders.
All in all it was a great experience, especially when I was single. The wife and kids do limit some of the things you can do when traveling but its still a great location. I'm actually trying to get back there or to Stuttgart next.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:05 am to bigezsaint
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I've been at Ramstein for almost two years now. Personally, I would live on base. I lived off base for 6 months when I first got here and decided to move on base. The bills are ridiculously expensive (gas, electric...etc) I moved on Landstuhl near the hospital and I'm very happy.
Are your kids in school? Ramstein has a million kids and I felt my child was just a face. Landstuhl is much more involved and makes you feel like family.
I have to be honest with you, the Germans aren't the nicest people in the world. Hell, they're pretty rude and will piss you off.
Which unit are heading to?
There is always one....
Who just shouldn't be stationed overseas.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:09 am to soccerfüt
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As was said here earlier, Germany on E-4 money will limit your options.
Thats not true. I was a single E-4 and my OHA was over 1000 euro. I was able to rent a townhouse in prime location with that and never had any money issues.
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From what I know, leave your truck here, sell it if you need to and use the proceeds on buying a car big enough to fit everybody and some gear for travel once you get there
The only drawback off bringing a truck is parking it. Euro parking lots are much smaller in terms of slots.
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Gasoline is super expensive there (compared to most everywhere in the US). If you live on base (recommended for your situation), you'll find that you probably NEED just one vehicle. I'd try to make it without the second vehicle.
When buying gas, you pay American prices on base. You get a fuel card, called the Esso card. This also lets you buy gas at any Esso in the country at American prices. So gas is not expensive for Americans covered by the SOFA.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:39 am to StraightCashHomey21
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There is always one....
Your right, there's always one little E4 who knows everything about everything.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:58 pm to Breadstick Gun
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 11:46 am
Posted on 2/25/16 at 2:35 pm to Kraut Dawg
Thanks for all the info. I'm still reading through and have bookmarked several responses to come back and reference later.
My OHA and Utilities combined will be around €1800. I've been looking at places online ranging from €1100 to €1800. Some of those are with utilities included and some are without. How much can I expect utilities to run per month for a family of 4?
Also, I guess this depends on the community I wind up in, but how is the internet over there. I understand I'll have access to the Armed Forces Network, but I'm going to be depending heavily on the internet to stream.
May be a dumb question but, I've been told that the voltage, outlets, etc. are different over there. Are there adapters and such so I can bring my TVs and other appliances?
I read that even if you rent a place off base on the economy, I can still be provided a refrigerator, microwave, washer, and dryer from housing. Can anyone confirm that?
Sorry for so many questions, but thanks again for all the info.
My OHA and Utilities combined will be around €1800. I've been looking at places online ranging from €1100 to €1800. Some of those are with utilities included and some are without. How much can I expect utilities to run per month for a family of 4?
Also, I guess this depends on the community I wind up in, but how is the internet over there. I understand I'll have access to the Armed Forces Network, but I'm going to be depending heavily on the internet to stream.
May be a dumb question but, I've been told that the voltage, outlets, etc. are different over there. Are there adapters and such so I can bring my TVs and other appliances?
I read that even if you rent a place off base on the economy, I can still be provided a refrigerator, microwave, washer, and dryer from housing. Can anyone confirm that?
Sorry for so many questions, but thanks again for all the info.
This post was edited on 2/25/16 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 2/28/16 at 8:24 am to Breadstick Gun
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 11:46 am
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