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re: Got Charged by Water Moccasins a Few Weeks Ago
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:18 pm to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:18 pm to Funky Tide 8
Not true
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:22 pm to ragincajun77
The top one is a Jungle Jaguar Carpet Python and the bottom is a Zebra Jungle Carpet Python. They are both actually the same species of snake (Jungle Carpet Python), but they each have a different genetic mutation that changes their pattern.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:29 pm to TigrrrDad
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And none that offered refuge in the middle of a large bay (which is not where you normally see cottonmouths), aside from the boat.
Since when does a water moccasin need refuge in the water? Especially when the “refuge” is threatening enough for it to go mouth open twice.
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No, they are just misinterpreted events (just like the video) from people who are afraid of snakes.
I know what has happened to me. I have experienced territorial, aggressive cottonmouth snakes. Do I think they would have actually attacked me? Probably not. Would they have bit me, had I let them get close enough? I think so. Were they just trying to back me out of their area? I think so, and it worked at least twice. As I said, my one experience on the water involved a cottonmouth following my boat much like you see in the video I posted, but we covered a distance of a hundred yards or more, and it involved two changes of direction. My other two experiences were on land, and the pursuit covered much less distance, but there was no mistaking it for what it was.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:37 pm to troyt37
Comedy gold right there, baw. 
Today a bunch of cars were chasing me. I turned onto the highway and a bunch of cars turned on behind me and started chasing me. Luckily, after a couple miles I lost them when I turned right and they kept going straight. They almost got me though!
Today a bunch of cars were chasing me. I turned onto the highway and a bunch of cars turned on behind me and started chasing me. Luckily, after a couple miles I lost them when I turned right and they kept going straight. They almost got me though!
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:46 pm to TigrrrDad
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Comedy gold right there, baw.
Today a bunch of cars were chasing me. I turned onto the highway and a bunch of cars turned on behind me and started chasing me. Luckily, after a couple miles I lost them when I turned right and they kept going straight. They almost got me though!
Alrighty then. I change my mind. There’s no need for me to respect your experiences, while you dismiss mine. I’m not a liar, and I’m not mistaken. Believe what you will.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:47 pm to TigrrrDad
They were absolutely behind you to rear end you!!!
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:50 pm to troyt37
Troy I dont believe you are lying at all. I just dont think the cottonmouths were moving your direction with an intent to attack. I think they just happened to be going in your direction. Much like the video you posted. Every time the snake strikes his classic defensive pose, he stops. They sense heat so probably did not know that the boat was a threat until it got too close at which point it stopped
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:05 pm to ragincajun77
Exactly. I don’t think he is “lying” and I think he teuly believes it as he saw it, but he is simply misinterpreting snake behavior - just like my analogy misinterprets car driver behavior. That video has a perfectly logical explanation that is completely innocent on the snake’s part. It’s in a large body of water - just like any other animal, snakes get tired. It’s swimming to the nearest “log” (boat) and gets defensive upon confrontation.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:11 pm to ragincajun77
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Troy I dont believe you are lying at all. I just dont think the cottonmouths were moving your direction with an intent to attack. I think they just happened to be going in your direction. Much like the video you posted. Every time the snake strikes his classic defensive pose, he stops. They sense heat so probably did not know that the boat was a threat until it got too close at which point it stopped
I have lived in bottomland nearly all of my life. I live adjacent to a 15,000 acre NWR, which backs up to a 17,000 acre WMA. I have hunted and fished these places for 45 years. I know a little about the behavior of many critters, including snakes, venomous or not. As I’ve said, the overwhelming majority of cottonmouths behave pretty much as all of you have said. But a few haven’t. And for those few which haven’t, there’s no mistaking what was going on, in my opinion.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:17 pm to TigrrrDad
Hey TigrrrDad, I'm trying to teach my kids about snakes because they are still young and unreasonably scared of them. How many times have you been bitten by non-venomous snakes? I've told my kids that it's like a strong lizard bite but I'm really just talking out of my arse cause I've never been bit
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:18 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Anyone else ever get chased by venomous snakes?
Cottonmouths? Absolutely. They can be very aggressive.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:25 pm to Funky Tide 8
I thought this was going to be about shoes.
Also, I’m not reading all that shite.
Also, I’m not reading all that shite.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:25 pm to ragincajun77
Back when I was a kid/teenager, most of the snakes I caught bit me, because basically I’d just rush over and dive at the snake and grab it anywhere I could get a hand on it. So I’d get bit dozens of times each year. Nowadays I tend to take my time and go for the head because I care a lot less if I catch a snake or not. Most just hit you quick and let go, though occasionally they hang on. Or you might be casually holding one and suddenly it decides to start trying to eat your hand.
They really don’t hurt bad. The largest I got bit by was a 6 1/2 ft. rat snake, and that hurt WAY less than getting stung by a red wasp. And most of the time we wouldn’t even treat a snake bite - if we were right by the house when we got bit, we might pour some peroxide on it. And the most common thing we caught were diamondback watersnakes in a sewage canal, so they weren’t very sanitary. Even getting bit by those, I’ve never had any type of reaction, infection, etc. from any snake bite. It’s really not a big deal - kids that get bit tend to react more to the surprise of getting bit rather than the actual pain.
They really don’t hurt bad. The largest I got bit by was a 6 1/2 ft. rat snake, and that hurt WAY less than getting stung by a red wasp. And most of the time we wouldn’t even treat a snake bite - if we were right by the house when we got bit, we might pour some peroxide on it. And the most common thing we caught were diamondback watersnakes in a sewage canal, so they weren’t very sanitary.
Even getting bit by those, I’ve never had any type of reaction, infection, etc. from any snake bite. It’s really not a big deal - kids that get bit tend to react more to the surprise of getting bit rather than the actual pain.This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:18 am to troyt37
I remember growing up in Louisiana and one fishing trip with my dad and brother. We were fishing and noticed a water moccasin in the water we thought no big deal until it started making a straight line for our boat. I swear to god that snake was near the boat in 10 seconds and next thing you know that sob was coming in the boat. You talk about some jimmies were rustling with a moccasin in the boat. My dad grabbed the paddle and started whacking away next thing I knew he was tangled up in our fishing line and the moccasin was subdued. I think my dad wanted him alive after this traumatic event. We get back to shore(my dad had a sick plan) and dad finds the largest red ant pile and flips the moccasin in it. frick you was the words my dad used
We returned the next day to find the skeleton of the snake. Anyway the point of this story was to indeed say I was attacked by a water moccasin/cottonmouth
We returned the next day to find the skeleton of the snake. Anyway the point of this story was to indeed say I was attacked by a water moccasin/cottonmouth
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:04 am to GarmischTiger
I don’t reckon old boy has seen Lonesome Dove. People can keep their HBO and Netflix, LD is the greatest miniseries
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:52 am to TigrrrDad
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Juvenile cottonmouth in this pic, which most people would mistake for a copperhead...
Note the jagged appearance of the intersection of the lighter and darker bands. That screams Agkistrodon piscivorous (cottonmouth). I ain't no "most people".
By the way I used to be scared of Black Widow spiders. That is till I figured out whether they attacked or not I could swipe them with a stick and then stomp them flat with a shoe. The snake that's gonna get you is the one you don't see. Be vigilant. And when I was a kid I did observe a cottonmouth swimming repeatedly towards our boat. Later the fish on the stringer by the side of the boat went crazy. My cousin pulled up the stringer along with a moc that had half swallowed a white perch. Cousin swung the paddle hard and the crooked moc swam off and died.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:26 am to UncleD7734
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Not true
What is not true?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:31 pm to TigrrrDad
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If he had any intent on "chasing" or "charging" us, we were basically defenseless because there were 4 of us standing on a pipe in the water that was less than 2 feet wide. There's no way we could have made a rapid retreat. But that was not the snake's intention because cottonmouths DON'T charge or chase people.
Here's a pic of him after he dismounted the branch and started eyeballing us...
I would squeal like a little girl with all those cottonmouths around.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:33 pm to TigrrrDad
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Back when I was a kid/teenager, most of the snakes I caught bit me, because basically I’d just rush over and dive at the snake and grab it anywhere I could get a hand on it.
So even venomous snake bites you didn’t bother with?
We have coral snakes near where I’ve lived. I’ve killed a couple. My understanding is they’re very venemous, but since their teeth or so small, they basically have to bite you between the toes or fingers, or chew on you to penetrate the skin.
Is that true?
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