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re: Google's CEO sides with Apple
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:13 pm to sandraccoon
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:13 pm to sandraccoon
quote:
"Forcing companies to enable hacking could compromise users’ privacy
COULD? Wouldn't forcing companies to enable hacking be doing exactly that, compromise user privacy? How is there any 'could' involved? How about this one:
quote:
Forcing a woman to have sex with you could cause her to be raped.
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:18 pm to sandraccoon
I honestly don't care what the government has access to on my phone. I ain't looking at kiddy porn and terrorism. What negative could come from it? It only seems like a problem for people with illegal shite to hide.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:23 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
quote:
I honestly don't care what the government has access to on my phone. I ain't looking at kiddy porn and terrorism. What negative could come from it? It only seems like a problem for people with illegal shite to hide.
Why do you wear clothes if you have nothing to hide? You have a suicide vest on under there don't you?
What negative could come from it? Let's see, Obama doesn't want a republican to win the presidential election so he leaks their internet history (porn), embarrassing photos, private conversations, etc. Now imagine one party controlling the outcome of every election on every level of government because finding campaign tanking information is just a single search query away. No privacy is the path to absolute tyranny.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:25 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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It only seems like a problem for people with illegal shite to hide.
There's a good reason the founders of this country included protections for reasonable expectation of privacy and the right against self incrimination. Also, you neglect the fact that if this goes through its only a matter of time before it's leaked to the open web. By then it won't be the govt searching your phone but hackers looking for usernames, passwords, financial records...
Just because you leave your door unlocked at night doesn't mean we should all be forced to.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:31 pm to colorchangintiger
quote:
Why do you wear clothes if you have nothing to hide? You have a suicide vest on under there don't you?
Nice.
I mean on the phone. quote:
Obama doesn't want a republican to win the presidential election so he leaks their internet history (porn), embarrassing photos, private conversations, etc. Now imagine one party controlling the outcome of every election on every level of government because finding campaign tanking information is just a single search query away. No privacy is the path to absolute tyranny.
Well, it would need a warrant and go through legal pathways. That stuff wouldn't fly on a warrant. I'm talking about during prosecutions and investigations in cases to national security.
BTW, what are they looking for? Texts, calls, numbers? Aren't all of those on the phone? If not, aren't they in a log by the phone carrier?
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:44 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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BTW, what are they looking for? Texts, calls, numbers? Aren't all of those on the phone? If not, aren't they in a log by the phone carrier?
all kidding aside, that's the thing i wondered about from the outset.
my phone has virtually NOTHING on it aside from a few local settings for apps that i have to reconfigure when i wipe it.
everything else is cloud connected from contacts, to email & calendar entries to music to images & videos being magically synced to 95% of my apps (stored login info on their websites) to sms & hangouts mostly being backed up as well.
honestly the 32GB storage space on my phone is more akin to a 'temp cache' than anything else
all my 3rd party apps magically even come back after a factory reset, i just have to login to a few of them again and toggle 'high quality music mode' inside of pandora and google music.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:17 pm to CAD703X
they know there is nothing on that phone. this is their way to force apple to give them a way around the devices default encryption. they have been upset about this for 2 years.
you know the saying, never let a good crisis go to waste
you know the saying, never let a good crisis go to waste
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:20 pm to gmrkr5
quote:
gonna try in this thread now I see
reading comprehension
i havent said that before
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:23 pm to sandraccoon
Tim Cook worries about privacy because he likes to.....?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:42 pm to gmrkr5
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they know there is nothing on that phone. this is their way to force apple to give them a way around the devices default encryption. they have been upset about this for 2 years. you know the saying, never let a good crisis go to waste
Bingo. You'd be a fool to trust the government with this kind of info.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:10 pm to boxcarbarney
Does the tin foil mess with your afro?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:50 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Same thing as all law enforcement having a master key to unlock your doors. Would you be cool with that?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:57 pm to gmrkr5
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Same thing as all law enforcement having a master key to unlock your doors. Would you be cool with that?
well with this shitty example, they cant get in without a warrant signed by the courts and if they did they dont need a master key bc they would just knock that bitch down.
but lets not forget that this isnt even remotely similar to what is going on in the apple case
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:10 pm to jeff5891
Good enough example so that none technical folks reading these threads understand the implications. What are you even arguing at this point?
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:42 pm to gmrkr5
I love how it was never discussed in the news that the Paris shooters discussed their attacks and coordinated them via regular text messaging.
No encryption or anything. Just simple texts.
Mass surveillance doesn't work. And back doors to encryption don't help anything either.
No encryption or anything. Just simple texts.
Mass surveillance doesn't work. And back doors to encryption don't help anything either.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:55 pm to Delacroix22
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I love how it was never discussed in the news that the Paris shooters discussed their attacks and coordinated them via regular text messaging.
Well, Dana Perino blamed Snowden for the Paris attack because he exposed government surveillance and the terrorists must have used encryption to keep the prying eyes of the government out of their plans....Right guys? Right?
LINK
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sure, whatever, but I'm not about to go suck their dicks for protecting my rights when they're just selling my information anyway.. Which I'm sure the government is more than happy to pay for with my own money.
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