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re: Good news for Catholics--Transgendered people can now be baptized and godparents.

Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by tommy2tone1999
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:17 pm to
He also converted water to wine and drank wine on a regular basis...
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:18 pm to
I forgot how did organized religion treat Jesus last time?
Posted by tigersbh
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:50 pm to
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I forgot how did organized religion treat Jesus last time?


You’re really stereotyping ALL religion?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:13 pm to
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You’re really stereotyping ALL religion?


The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.

“Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’

“But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.

“Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’ So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
Posted by AcadieAnne
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:22 pm to
The liberal ones already do. There’s something like a dozen different designations for trannies in their outside-the-Pentateuch (Talmud?) Rabbinic texts.
Posted by Bubb
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:29 pm to
Bc I want mentally unstable people raising my kids if I die.
Posted by AcadieAnne
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:43 pm to
I feel like you missed the part where Jesus told sinners to “go forth and sin no more” after He accepted them. We are all sinners, but no unrepentant person should receive communion and baptism, no matter whether Catholic or Protestant. And someone so unrepentant as to have gotten “the surgery” and continue to deceitfully live their life as the wrong sex/ gender should not have their sinful lifestyle affirmed in church.

A godparent’s duty is to see that a child is raised in a Godly household should something happen to the parents. By definition, it is impossible for a tranny to do that.

They’re still eligible for grace, of course, that’s a gift freely given. But to submit oneself for baptism and communion knowing you’re choosing to live a sinful life is making a mockery of God. Good luck with that.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:48 pm to
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I feel like you missed the part where Jesus told sinners to “go forth and sin no more” after He accepted them. We are all sinners, but no unrepentant person should receive communion and baptism, no matter whether Catholic or Protestant. And someone so unrepentant as to have gotten “the surgery” and continue to deceitfully live their life as the wrong sex/ gender should not have their sinful lifestyle affirmed in church. A godparent’s duty is to see that a child is raised in a Godly household should something happen to the parents. By definition, it is impossible for a tranny to do that. They’re still eligible for grace, of course, that’s a gift freely given. But to submit oneself for baptism and communion knowing you’re choosing to live a sinful life is making a mockery of God. Good luck with that.


Let’s talk through this a bit, in layers.

To start, do you have a biblical basis for saying that a man wearing a dress is sinful?
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:51 pm to
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To start, do you have a biblical basis for saying that a man wearing a dress is sinful?



DEUTERONOMY 22:5

“The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment; for all who do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:53 pm to
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Jesus loves and forgives butt pirates too.

Do they repent? Not sure but that May be key.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:56 pm to
Well stated but to add, for frick sake, the entire Tranny ideological is plainly and obviously built on “God, you got it wrong.”
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:58 pm to
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DEUTERONOMY 22:5 “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment; for all who do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.


Are Christians purporting to adhere to Deuteronomy 22 these days? As a reminder, here’s the rest of that chapter:

22 If you see your fellow Israelite’s ox or sheep straying, do not ignore it but be sure to take it back to its owner. 2 If they do not live near you or if you do not know who owns it, take it home with you and keep it until they come looking for it. Then give it back. 3 Do the same if you find their donkey or cloak or anything else they have lost. Do not ignore it.

4 If you see your fellow Israelite’s donkey or ox fallen on the road, do not ignore it. Help the owner get it to its feet.

5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.

6 If you come across a bird’s nest beside the road, either in a tree or on the ground, and the mother is sitting on the young or on the eggs, do not take the mother with the young. 7 You may take the young, but be sure to let the mother go, so that it may go well with you and you may have a long life.

8 When you build a new house, make a parapet around your roof so that you may not bring the guilt of bloodshed on your house if someone falls from the roof.

9 Do not plant two kinds of seed in your vineyard; if you do, not only the crops you plant but also the fruit of the vineyard will be defiled.[a]

10 Do not plow with an ox and a donkey yoked together.

11 Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together.

12 Make tassels on the four corners of the cloak you wear.

This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 10:59 pm
Posted by AcadieAnne
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:59 pm to
Step 1: Are you a red letters-only guy, or do you accept the words of St. Paul? If you’re a red letters-only guy, disregard my post. If not, St. Paul had plenty to say about the topic. If you seriously aren’t familiar with what St. Paul had to say on the topic, let me know.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:04 pm to
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Step 1: Are you a red letters-only guy, or do you accept the words of St. Paul? If you’re a red letters-only guy, disregard my post. If not, St. Paul had plenty to say about the topic. If you seriously aren’t familiar with what St. Paul had to say on the topic, let me know


I’m familiar in general, particularly as it pertains to issues like homosexuality, but I don’t recall anything regarding wardrobe. Feel free to remind me
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:05 pm to
Where is the “for all who do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God” or in other versions “for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this” in verses you quoted?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:07 pm to
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Where is the “for all who do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God” or in other versions “for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this” in verses you quoted?


Is that how we are interpreting biblical passages? So a man wearing a dress is on par or worse than murderers, rapists, and slavers?
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:22 pm to
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So a man wearing a dress is on par or worse than murderers, rapists, and slavers?


No we are saying they are abominations to god or in version you quoted they are detested by god.

You quoted one and used the other. Did you not read them to know what we are saying?

You list the do and don’ts, but only one includes that those who do it are abominations to god or detested by god. Now you throw in different things to compare.

What does Old Testament say about attacking a straw man?
Posted by AcadieAnne
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:26 pm to
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and trust that you’re asking in good faith.

The first verse that comes to mind is 1 Corinthians 6:9

Using the translation from New American Standard Bible, accepted by both Catholics and Protestants:

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals

Effeminate = dude in a dress.

Now, I don’t want to talk about verse 10 that mentions drunkards. Like I said, we’re all sinners.
Posted by AcadieAnne
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:41 pm to
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So a man wearing a dress is on par or worse than murderers, rapists, and slavers?


Yes. There is no “just a little bit” of sin. There are no degrees. It is all the same. We may not like it, it may not seem fair to us, but that’s just how it is. Even a murderer can be redeemed in the eyes of God for truly repenting and asking forgiveness, even if the laws of man hold them accountable. Everyone having a chance for God’s forgiveness that sincerely repents and asks for it is more fair in the big picture, imvho.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:43 am to
Catholicism is not Christianity.

Get out while you still can.
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