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re: Going rate for leasing land for exploratory drilling.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 4:18 am to BOSCEAUX
Posted on 9/24/16 at 4:18 am to BOSCEAUX
Bosceaux: cajun cricket had some good advice. I have some experience with that in the same general area (Calcasieu/Beauregard Parishes). If we can catch each other online and get a way to contact each other, maybe I could get you a little information.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 8:42 am to Cajun Cricket
CajunCricket has some good advice. Knowledge is power. While he's right that not leasing could be better in the long run, the well has to pay for itself a few times over before you start receiving money, and who knows how long that will take. The system is designed to incentivize leasing.
The job of the landman is to walk away with the land tied up for the longest period of time, for lowest bonus and lowest royalty. He's not necessarily out to screw you, but if you say I'll take $100 and 5% for 10 years, he's not going to fight you.
He's going to tell you to go to hell for a favored nations clause. But it's not a bad thing for him to know you know what that is.
Finally, like somebody mentioned, if this is seismic work, that's a whole other ball of wax. They're just looking to see the formations below the surface. In that case, if the seismic is positive, someone would be back later to lease the surface and minerals.
Again, sign nothing at the meeting. Tell him you need to have it reviewed. Let us know what he tells you.
The job of the landman is to walk away with the land tied up for the longest period of time, for lowest bonus and lowest royalty. He's not necessarily out to screw you, but if you say I'll take $100 and 5% for 10 years, he's not going to fight you.
He's going to tell you to go to hell for a favored nations clause. But it's not a bad thing for him to know you know what that is.
Finally, like somebody mentioned, if this is seismic work, that's a whole other ball of wax. They're just looking to see the formations below the surface. In that case, if the seismic is positive, someone would be back later to lease the surface and minerals.
Again, sign nothing at the meeting. Tell him you need to have it reviewed. Let us know what he tells you.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 8:50 am to Skooter
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While he's right that not leasing could be better in the long run, the well has to pay for itself a few times over before you start receiving money, and who knows how long that will take.
Not true. Not if he's unleased.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:05 am to UpToPar
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Not true. Not if he's unleased.
Take a look at the Risk Fee Statute my brother. 200% nonconsent penalty, as I recall.
If it's an unconventional play (long reach horizontal with hydraulic fracturing), you are unlikely to get paid if you go nonconsent on a Risk Fee letter. The well costs are just too high.
ETA: Uptopar correctly and professionally pointed out that Risk Fee doesn't apply to unleased interests.
This post was edited on 9/24/16 at 9:53 am
Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:11 am to Skooter
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seismic work
Usually a seismic permit has a lease option attached. There's a good reason for that.
If I spend ten or twenty million on a seismic shoot them have to go lease, every jackass block buster in the world is going to start leasing around me. Also, when I go back to lease a landowner after a shoot, the landowner knows I've found something, and the lease is going to be a lot more expensive.
Locking up the acreage with options solves those problems.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:16 am to JudgeHolden
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Take a look at the Risk Fee Statute my brother. 200% nonconsent penalty, as I recall.
Read sub part (e)(i)
I'll quote it here so you don't have to look it up:
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(e)(i) The provisions of Subparagraph (b) of this Paragraph with respect to the risk charge shall not apply to any unleased interest not subject to an oil, gas, and mineral lease.
This post was edited on 9/24/16 at 9:17 am
Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:27 am to BOSCEAUX
Leases in the SW Louisiana area were in the $250-$300/ac with 1/4 royalty a few years ago. These terms depend on activity in the area and if the those leasing the property are packaging up a play they plan to sell to someone else to actually drill/produce it.
This is strange for a drilling lease. If above is true, it sounds like a deal to do seismic work as someone already posted.
Regarding leasing versus not leasing to get a larger share. I would sign the lease. Holding out is usually a losing deal. They may not do anything unless they get everyone leased. Besides, many times, the well is never drilled or if it is drilled, it is a duster. Even if they hit pay, production unit boundaries can be pretty subjective. If your property is near the edge without a lease, it is in their interest to cut you out. Then your option is to hire a geologists and things get expensive and complicated.
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He said if anything was found a seperate company would be the ones to negotiate royalties.
This is strange for a drilling lease. If above is true, it sounds like a deal to do seismic work as someone already posted.
Regarding leasing versus not leasing to get a larger share. I would sign the lease. Holding out is usually a losing deal. They may not do anything unless they get everyone leased. Besides, many times, the well is never drilled or if it is drilled, it is a duster. Even if they hit pay, production unit boundaries can be pretty subjective. If your property is near the edge without a lease, it is in their interest to cut you out. Then your option is to hire a geologists and things get expensive and complicated.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 9:51 am to UpToPar
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UpToPar
I stand corrected. I'd forgotten that.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 1:18 pm to BOSCEAUX
Got it. I'll shoot you an email in a little while.
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