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Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:54 pm to
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go on
sfp will say "certain people" meant of a certain class, when it's obvious what is meant. Not sure how many more examples it'll take just in this thread to see the light.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:56 pm to
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quote:
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but like i said earlier. this board (using it as a barometer since it wasbut the discussion only gets tilted when it's minorities in the video (by some, not all)

that's why i want a clear word for black trash. that way there is no dancing around the issue and no false interpretations.


True words there.

And you won't get a clear word for black trash. You'll get "black culture" or just "blacks". Whites who are caught in the act, however, are cast as a distinct small group (white trash) so it is clear it is not the norm for whites.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112949 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:58 pm to
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Whites who are caught in the act, however, are cast as a distinct small group (white trash) so it is clear it is not the norm for whites
that exactly how I explained it to sfp. Like I just mentioned, there's multiple posts in this thread showing this distinction.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:00 pm to
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"ninja" is racist now
Why? They're an ancient sect of fierce assassins.

How about "diversitards?"
Posted by fleaux
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Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

sfp will say "certain people" meant of a certain class, when it's obvious what is meant. Not sure how many more examples it'll take just in this thread to see the light.


Tell us what to call it so we don't trigger any code words or anything..... Is "black trash " acceptable or would you come on here and say that's a racist generalization ?
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25963 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:13 pm to
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black trash


Tar?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112949 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:16 pm to
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Tell us what to call it so we don't trigger any code words or anything..... Is "black trash " acceptable or would you come on here and say that's a racist generalization ?
We're all adults, I'm sure you can get your point across accurately as not calling out one race if that's what you intend to do.

I'm also sure the vast majority of people are smart enough to know what is meant/insinuated when you see things like "monkey", "kong", and "what did you expect", wouldn't you agree that those comments don't exactly do a great job of generalizing for all races and specifically is pointing to this race in question? I'd think we can agree on that.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 5:19 pm
Posted by fleaux
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:21 pm to
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I'm also sure the vast majority of people are smart enough to know what is meant/insinuated when you see things like "monkey", "kong", and "what did you expect", wouldn't you agree that those comments don't exactly do a great job of generalizing for all races and specifically is pointing to this race in question? I'd think we can agree on that.


I think when the word "monkey" is used then obviously you are correct, but when someone says "what do you expect?" , and it is a group of blacks basically celebrating one of their own beating a girl with a small child then no, I would think they are talking about black trash......
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112949 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:28 pm to
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but when someone says "what do you expect?" , and it is a group of blacks basically celebrating one of their own beating a girl with a small child then no, I would think they are talking about black trash......
If I told you the same poster that posted that also posted this in regards to the white vs black community in the church shooting thread(he being part of the white community):

quote:

cause we dont need to bond as a community to blame our problems on, and we don't need leaders to protect us from the realities of fricking life. We deal with our problems head on and don't make excuses for our shortfalls.


Would that make you reconsider?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing I could find more like that, just not sure how many I'd need to find before it would become more obvious by what he meant there.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 5:38 pm
Posted by unbeWEAVEable
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:03 pm to
Oh, what do you know...

Another video that won't be on TV
Posted by fleaux
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Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:05 pm to
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing I could find more like that, just not sure how many I'd need to find before it would become more obvious by what he meant there.


What in there is racist?? I'm not denying that there are plenty of racists around, but I think you throw the word around a little too comfortably
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40533 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:12 pm to
this video disgusts me
Posted by LSUcrawfish
St George,Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4301 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:15 pm to
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Oh, what do you know...

Another video that won't be on TV


Yea liberal media will never show this video of these thugs. If that's my little girl that thug hoe would pay for her actions.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112949 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:38 pm to
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What in there is racist?? I'm not denying that there are plenty of racists around, but I think you throw the word around a little too comfortably

You and I have gone back and forth for a few posts now, I don't think I use the term racist in any of them fwiw. Very weird that you brought it up quoting a post where didn't use the term.


I feel like your dodging my main point originally, I think the context I added helps to show what that poster really meant when he said "what do you expect", not sure why you so easily were pushed away from that part of the debate to focus on something I hadn't said to you over the last few posts, it was strange timing at the least, wouldn't you agree?

I think we're at the point where nothing I post will make you believe that poster was referring to black people, so it's cool.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 6:43 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481261 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:45 pm to
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We're all adults, I'm sure you can get your point across accurately as not calling out one race if that's what you intend to do.

but people, especially the post you're replying to, aren't referring to an entire race...just the trashy parts of that race

can we just call them trash?

quote:

wouldn't you agree that those comments don't exactly do a great job of generalizing for all races and specifically is pointing to this race in question

that's b/c we don't have a word. any word that society comes up with for black trash gets called racist

that's why i want a word. with a little outreach, just watch. i bet you this board goes "all in" and there isn't this ambiguity
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481261 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:47 pm to
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You'll get "black culture" or just "blacks". Whites who are caught in the act, however, are cast as a distinct small group (white trash) so it is clear it is not the norm for whites.

again, this is only a problem of being able to use words

like i said it doesn't require a racial guide word (which white trash apparently does). call it kangaroo culture for all i give a shite

by definition this removes most blacks from the group, which completely defeats the point you just made
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:47 pm to
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I think we're at the point where nothing I post will make you believe that poster was referring to black people

he was obviously referring to some black people. the question is what scope of the black race fell within the reference
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:52 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 3:36 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112949 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:53 pm to
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but people, especially the post you're replying to, aren't referring to an entire race...just the trashy parts of that race
I posted another quote from that same poster that puts that into question.

quote:

can we just call them trash? 
Yea, not sure why anyone would have an issue with calling them 3 trash.

quote:

that's b/c we don't have a word. any word that society comes up with for black trash gets called racist 

Why can't you just have a word for all trash, why do you need to delineate black trash? We see they're black, seems very inefficient to have to add it. Trash, done.

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that's why i want a word. with a little outreach, just watch. i bet you this board goes "all in" and there isn't this ambiguity

it may help some, it you'll still see "monkey" thrown around, I'm sure. Some people really are actually racist/prejudiced.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112949 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:55 pm to
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he was obviously referring to some black people. the question is what scope of the black race fell within the reference

He made specific comments about the white and black community in another thread, didn't seem like he was making that distinction.
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