re: Girl suspended from high school for being brutally beaten by boy dressing as girl

While not oerfect, most of the studies are positive which is a far cry from what the other poster was saying that it’s a fact the post-op trans people have a higher rate of suicide.

Gender affirming doesn’t just mean an operation. It could also be psychology helping them understand their feelings. Talking about it isn’t a bad thing. Operating on youth is.

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Gender affirming doesn’t just mean an operation. It could also be psychology helping them understand their feelings. Talking about it isn’t a bad thing. Operating on youth is.

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Its nauseating this is a topic.

Its all made up fairytale crap that parents let their kids run with.

Bad parenting is the reason almost 100% of the time. These types of issues didnt happen 100 years ago. when fathers were in the home at a higher clip.

facts

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you’re saying trans people don’t exist.

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I don’t think you can find a quote that says the above.


As far as trans go:
People who believe they are trans exist.

People who will attempt to live their life as trans exist.

People who are truly a different gender/sex than their biological sex and genetics do not exist.

You might need to adjust your numbers some. Cause this was a thing 100 years ago.

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He purchased a Berlin villa in early 1919 and opened the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (the Institute for Sexual Research) on July 6. By 1930 it would perform the first modern gender-affirmation surgeries in the world.

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So if you want to blame someone for this crap, blame the Germans.

you understand that study compares people who received gender confirming care to anyone who didn’t and people who has tubal ligations and vasectomies.

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Suicide risk over time among patients who received gender-affirmation surgery is compared to individuals in several control groups.

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But the control group wasn’t trans people who don’t receive gender confirming care.

The question isn’t do trans people have a higher suicide rate, but whether gender affirmative care lowers that suicide rate in trans people.

People on prozac probably have a higher rate of suicide than the general public. But do they have a higher rate of suicide than in medicated people with depression?

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So you can just keep moving your goalposts

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I haven't touched the goalposts. My claim has and continues to be that gay people are born that way, not taught to be.

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Yet everyone here besides the one other nutjob is telling you what you believe is ridiculous

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And in 20 years of posting here I've learned that if the board thinks I'm wrong, then I'm most definitely right.

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so highly intelligent that we now know everything about everything?


frick you.

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Why are you taking this so personally? All I'm saying is that medically speaking we're always finding new things.Heck, they used to stick leeches on people to suck out the bad blood.
The medical profession is always progressing and learning new things.

They used several control groups.

Here is another article from The Guardian which goes into detail of individual cases and a review of 100 studies.

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Guardian Weekend asked Birmingham University's Aggressive Research Intelligence Facility (Arif) to assess the findings of more than 100 follow-up studies of post-operative transsexuals. Arif, which conducts reviews of healthcare treatments for the NHS, concludes that none of the studies provides conclusive evidence that gender reassignment is beneficial for patients. It found that most research was poorly designed, which skewed the results in favour of physically changing sex. There was no evaluation of whether other treatments, such as long-term counselling, might help transsexuals, or whether their gender confusion might lessen over time. Arif says the findings of the few studies that have tracked significant numbers of patients over several years were flawed because the researchers lost track of at least half of the participants. The potential complications of hormones and genital surgery, which include deep vein thrombosis and incontinence respectively, have not been thoroughly investigated, either. "There is huge uncertainty over whether changing someone's sex is a good or a bad thing," says Dr Chris Hyde, director of Arif. "While no doubt great care is taken to ensure that appropriate patients undergo gender reassignment, there's still a large number of people who have the surgery but remain traumatised - often to the point of committing suicide."

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Your quotes still don’t prove your assumption it was talking about all gay men or just gay men. You even included “many left wing gays” and “queer” which doesn’t mean gay anymore as an adjective to “activists” which doesn’t cover all gays. You need help. Get the absolutism out of your head and try again.

Also, Do you understand those were quotes from someone from that alphabet culture who is now calling it out?

Regardless let me help you out with “many” -

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Understanding the difference between “most” and “many” is essential for using these quantifiers accurately in English. “Most” refers to a majority of items or people within a group, suggesting a greater extent or degree than “many.” It often implies more than half of a given set.

On the other hand, “many” simply refers to a large number of items or people but does not necessarily suggest a majority. It is used to indicate a significant but indefinite quantity, typically in contexts where the exact number is unknown or irrelevant.

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Hopefully you can define “left wing” yourself.

A new study found a significantly higher risk of suicide attempts, self-harm, and PTSD for individuals who have undergone gender transition surgeries.

The study, published in April, found that individuals who had undergone gender transition surgery had a 12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who had not,

https://www.cureus.com/articles/201512-risk-of-suicide-and-self-harm-following-gender-affirmation-surgery#!/