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re: George W. Bush first pitch after 9/11

Posted on 9/11/21 at 6:53 am to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42046 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 6:53 am to
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Yeah never mind the fact that a group of people murdered nearly 3 thousand Americans

What the hell did Iraq have to do with that? The hijackers were overwhelmingly Saudi. Most of the material support for their organization came from wealthy Saudis. Guess where Bush's daddy was on 9/11? At a Carlyle Group meeting in DC with Bin Laden's half-brother.
Posted by RickDorf
Nothing to prove Nothing to lose
Member since Jan 2021
3294 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 6:56 am to
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It will never be done because you need a sample size greater than 6, but I'd love to see some analysis on what being president does to your health.



You promise the world just so you can get the job. You say shite you probably can't believe you would ever say.

You win. You're relieved, you've made it. The pomp and circumstance on a near every day basis makes you think My God, I don't want to leave this shite.

Then, you face the overwhelming, impossible problems of your country you never knew about and all of the stuff you now have to pay back to the party you sold your soul to and you just do the best you can to keep your own head over water.

I respect any man who gets in and gives it his serious best. I really do.

But, the guy who is in office right now has no business being President. At all. It's going to probably kill him before the first term is up and no telling what it will do to us as well.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42046 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 7:00 am to
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We had to get rid of the monster we had enabled

This quote right here demonstrates the insanity of neoconservatism and an interventionist foreign policy. We create evil around the world through our covert meddling and funding and then claim that these evils need to be stamped out. We are intentionally creating and fomenting monsters so that we can justify permanent war. This is the Bush Doctrine laid bare.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139279 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 7:06 am to
Great pitch.
Posted by tigerinexile
The greatest parish
Member since Sep 2004
1624 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 7:12 am to
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Screw him. Getting us into a war to prove something to daddy. Muh WMDs


That look on his face while in that classroom was not a look of surprise in my opinion. It was more of I can’t remember my lines look.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39798 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 7:23 am to
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Really weird how everyone always seems to forget that they did indeed find chemical weapons. On more than one occasion.



You mean the ones cited from the Army intelligence report? Those certainly weren't on the level promised by the administration at the time.
Posted by Inadvertent Whistle
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2015
5464 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 7:27 am to
Going into Afghanistan to find Osama - completely justified. Going into Iraq - either very faulty intelligence or a personal vendetta. Never liked us being there. And we should have left Afghanistan about 10 seconds after we ended Osama.
Posted by Mike the Tiger 1999
Weston, Florida
Member since Jul 2009
2326 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 7:32 am to
lmao that little shitsucker Fauci wearing his fricking Nats Covid mask outdoors w/ nobody near him. ofc he throws a baseball like that.
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
5079 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 7:33 am to
Pretty cool. I was at that game in the outfield. Was impressive to see all the secret service guys and snipers rolling up with the cases of guns getting set up pre game.

Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14662 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 7:45 am to
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It will never be done because you need a sample size greater than 6, but I'd love to see some analysis on what being president does to your health.


Carter has lived to be 96 and was teaching Sunday school as recently as two years ago. Clinton had heart issues when in office and is still traveling the world 21 years after leaving office. Bush II is still playing golf. Obama is probably one of the more fit presidents we’ve had. Trump handled the presidency like he handled life, with a ton of energy and still seems to be going fine.

Reagan had mental health issues in the end, but he was physically fine up until his later years. Bush I was diagnosed with Graves’ disease and a form of Parkinson’s, but he lived to be 94.

Modern presidents don’t seem to be impacted as much, other than their hair turning or becoming noticeably more gray.
This post was edited on 9/11/21 at 8:31 am
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14406 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 7:47 am to
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I think GWB is probably a good man. Naive in his approach. I don’t view him as evil. I think he was a swamp creature by nature and too trusting.
I think his biggest issue was he had never been in an elected position above the state level, so he didn't have the connections for foreign policy that one needs for the presidency. So, he turned to people his dad knew - Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell. These were guys who were of the older breed and stuck in the Cold War mindset. He admitted he was over his head on foreign policy, and he let them lead him astray.

I do think there were some number of WMDs in Iraq, at least chemical, maybe some rudimentary biological, and that they were smuggled into Syria before the war started. Was Saddam a threat to use them? Probably not right then, and all attention should have stayed focused on Afghanistan and getting UBL.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 7:50 am to
Let history show......9/11 happened on his watch.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139279 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 8:00 am to
I wonder how Al Gore would have responded?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 8:01 am to
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There were WMDs. The amount of WMDs is why they covered it up, because it would've caused panic in the American public. I've heard this from a few personal friends in the military that directly dealt with that situation.

Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150214 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 8:04 am to
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
11011 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 8:51 am to
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There were WMDs. The amount of WMDs is why they covered it up, because it would've caused panic in the American public.
Dick?
Posted by St Stooge
Member since Feb 2017
446 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 8:58 am to
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And why Trump is the only real man of the people we’ve had since Reagan.

Jesus. How do you people type this shite out without realizing you’re in a cult?
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Baw Land
Member since Sep 2017
14365 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 9:28 am to
Love how that one baw right behind home plate has his back turned
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 9:33 am to
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Modern presidents don’t seem to be impacted as much, other than their hair turning or becoming noticeably more gray.



I would say there is an extreme sample bias there too though. Most presidents have to go through the craziness that is a presidential run, which weeds out people who can't hack that kind of pressure.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/11/21 at 9:35 am to
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Jesus. How do you people type this shite out without realizing you’re in a cult?



We haven't had a "man of the people" in a long time because those types just don't usually enter government.
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