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re: General PSA to patients from healthcare providers: What we want you to know

Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:06 pm to
i would have though patient compliance would be among the things that annoy you.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21953 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:07 pm to
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That being said, if I made one of my doc clients wait 45 minutes after their scheduled appointment to see me, I'd be out of business.


The difference is that you don't make your money exclusively by meeting with your client. You can afford to schedule appointments an hour apart because you can bill by the hour for work done outside of the client meeting. Physicians that see patients in a clinic setting are only paid for the actual office visit and procedures performed with the patient in front of them. So, we have to maximize patient volume in order to maximize revenue. While higher volume can lead to higher revenue in a lot of other professions (i.e., the big money lawsuit or big corporate insurance account can dramatically increase another professional's revenue).

Another issue not brought up in this thread yet, at least this time, is no shows. I'd love to spread my patients out and be able to spend more time with each of them. But if I have 20 patients scheduled in a half day, I'm very likely to have 4-6 no call/no shows, sometimes more. So, I'm going to continue to overbook until my patient base can prove they won't no show consistently. Unfortunately, this means longer wait times because I can't predict (at least not always) which patients won't show up. If it's the last 4 patients of the morning, then the early patients will be stacked up because of this overbooking. Fortunately, they usually are scattered throughout the day, so we've somewhat figured out the best way to deal with this problem. It's not an exact science though.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62286 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:10 pm to
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Most GPs and internist aren't coming close to 180k



Really?
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:10 pm to
So what do you suggest a patient do if they need to see a doc For multiple issues? Let the scheduler know in advance? Does that mean you'll schedule the next patients appointment 15 minutes later to account for the multiple ailments?

frick no it doesn't. You'll keep the same number of patients on the schedule.

Do you think people should schedule separate appointments for separate issues so they have to wait an hour each time? Nah
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21953 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:18 pm to
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So what do you suggest a patient do if they need to see a doc For multiple issues? Let the scheduler know in advance?


Most docs have built in short slots and long slots. In my practice, if you call and say you need to come in because you woke up with an eye infection, you go into a short slot because I expect that to take less time than someone coming in for a complete eye exam. If you tell me when you get there that your eye was slightly bothering you when you woke up, but you really need a new prescription for glasses and were hoping to be able to get your yearly exam done, then I'm going to make sure you don't have an acute problem and tell you to reschedule your yearly exam. This issue happens multiple times a week in my practice.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294607 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:22 pm to
Wish I could fricking takeoff my bill $50 every 15 minutes I'm stranded waiting after appointment time
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77826 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:29 pm to
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Not all doctor visits are like that but there are a few that take 2 hours to get called to go in the bac


Do you know why? Do you think the doctor is in the back screwing around? It's more likely they have encountered a patient with an urgent issue that requires more time than was allotted. Now, if you say that they should schedule fewer patients. then you are recommending reduced access for patients.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62286 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:31 pm to
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Do you think the doctor is in the back screwing around?


No. I think they're bad at time management. It's obvious that this is a recurring issue.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37718 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:35 pm to
Stop thinking and behaving like you're above us. Stop getting people at the front desk to ask us for our insurance card so they can make a copy when you already have a copy. And don't bitch when your plumber shows up an hour late. And definitely don't ask him to call you doctor . Thanks

Oh and don't bill me or my insurance for a 15 minute visit when you only spend five minutes with me.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19080 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:40 pm to
If you don't like it quit
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77826 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:45 pm to
It seems to happen more with surgeons or those who perform procedures during the morning. It can be frustrating, obviously. IMO, and I figure it's not much value to others, waits for healthcare are far more acceptable than all the other crap we wait for in our lives. People will wait an hour for a mediocre restaurant or for a ride at an amusement park and think very little of it, but then complain about a wait for a medical issue.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:53 pm to
"Health Providers, please feel free to chime in"
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:23 pm to
Ah, that makes sense. What did you do in healthcare?
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 12:35 am
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
3105 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:09 am to
Spot on! Huge problem that I failed to mention. And my practice is a concierge practice. It makes no difference. Wait times are still dictated by patients with a laundry list of ailments after being seen for the problem they made the appointment for. Trust me when I say that Drs , nurses , MEs , etc don't want folks to be waiting longer than necessaary. As I said before , we can't just tell the "problem" patients to get lost. If we did that , we would never acquire new patients as those scumbag patients would rant and race all over the net saying how rude we were, how we have no bedside manners (laughable when your talking about a private practice) and that the Dr doesn't care. People suck! Everyone in this thread knows that. It doesn't change at a Drs office.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30232 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:12 am to
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paying your bill would be appreciated.



Talk to Uncle Sam bub.

Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
3105 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:12 am to
No. Do just what you said previously. Let them know that you're coming and you'll need an extended appointment. I don't know about the OP but at my office , we would accommodate that and give you a bigger "window" for your appointment. Most likely try to make you the last patient of the day.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30232 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:14 am to
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recommending reduced access for patients.


It would probably be better for the docs and the real patients.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:22 am to
I dont think nor claim to be. However, I have never done any of those things in the OP.

Insurances change, premiums dont get paid, patients forget and lie, so we have to verify every pt every visit.

Depends on the reasoning for him being late.

We dont bill office visits by time but by complexity. I dont introduce myself to others or ask that they call me doctor outside of a medical encounter.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:49 am to

Sound a little burned out. How long have you been in practice
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:57 am to
Hang that in your waiting room.
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