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re: Genealogy & Ancestry
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:49 pm to Jim Ed Love
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:49 pm to Jim Ed Love
My ancestors likely assimilated too early.
It’s crazy how they reward the Indians who held out and refused to assimilate but not the ones who did.
It’s crazy how they reward the Indians who held out and refused to assimilate but not the ones who did.
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Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:02 am to MarsellusWallace
Try using familysearch.org
It is free and completed more than almost any of mine.
I can trace the matrilineal line back to the early 600s.
It is free and completed more than almost any of mine.
I can trace the matrilineal line back to the early 600s.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 1:11 am to MarsellusWallace
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Have any of yall done Ancestry.com or 23&me
Yes and I found out I’m Black
Posted on 3/21/26 at 3:46 am to MarsellusWallace
I did FTDNA and their Big Y project. I've been all over Family Search trying to follow my direct paternal line. I've about decided my great, great, great grandfather was on the lam and just appeared in Arkansas in the early 1800's.
Gedmatch is a pretty good free resource, a lot of people transfer their data from all the services to that site. Lots of fun tool to play around with there, too.
Gedmatch is a pretty good free resource, a lot of people transfer their data from all the services to that site. Lots of fun tool to play around with there, too.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 4:06 am to el Gaucho
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see a lot of people getting some small percent of African dna on their results but when I did a 23&me I got 0% sub Saharan African
No race card for you
Posted on 3/21/26 at 4:30 am to Jim Ed Love
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you think that you have any blanket blood that is on the Dawes roll---- Creek, Osage, Seminole, Choctaw, and Cherokee and can prove it by
I bought horses from a man that lived around Sallisaw. He was a card carrying Cherokee with red hair and freckles.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 5:44 am to MarsellusWallace
None of this about who you are related to, what they did, or what percentage nordic you are makes anyone of you mutts special.
No one gives a frick except yourself.
I expect the downvote ratio to be 49-1 against but it’s true.
No one gives a frick except yourself.
I expect the downvote ratio to be 49-1 against but it’s true.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 8:18 am to tigerinexile
Ya, no blood quantum on Cherokee enrollment. Just have to have an
ancestor that was on the Dawes roll.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 8:29 am to Jim Ed Love
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Just have to have an ancestor that was on the Dawes roll.
Just lie like Pocahontas. Say your grandmother told you that you were an illegitimate child of one.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 9:16 am to MarsellusWallace
I’ve done both. Ancestry.com is 100% superior for genealogical purposes. Their DNA can actually connect your family tree onto other public trees and show you how you are related to genetic cousins with a visual “thru line”. I have found 23andme to be rather useless. They lean more towards your physical traits, which I already know from looking in the mirror.
I used my mom’s DNA to find her biological parents since her adoption records were sealed. Once I had enough hits on a common ancestor I could drill down and figure out her parents with the minimal info I did have. (They have been deceased for decades but she wanted to know her story).
I’m a total nerd with genealogy . The only issue I have with ancestry is the cost. If it is a hobby you wish to maintain, it is expensive to keep the account active. I do hop on and off sometimes if a new “hint” intrigues me. For the most part I can go back to 1600s in the colonies but once I get to England my name becomes too common to trust with any reliability.
I used my mom’s DNA to find her biological parents since her adoption records were sealed. Once I had enough hits on a common ancestor I could drill down and figure out her parents with the minimal info I did have. (They have been deceased for decades but she wanted to know her story).
I’m a total nerd with genealogy . The only issue I have with ancestry is the cost. If it is a hobby you wish to maintain, it is expensive to keep the account active. I do hop on and off sometimes if a new “hint” intrigues me. For the most part I can go back to 1600s in the colonies but once I get to England my name becomes too common to trust with any reliability.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 9:23 am to F1y0n7h3W4LL
quote:. Sorry to disappoint you, but your DNA doesn’t have to be in the database for them to find you. Simply a cousin or two will suffice for someone who know what they are doing.
I've had a past and don't want a phone call from some middle aged man or woman calling and saying, "Hello, Dad?" A DNA test might cause more crap than I'm willing to stir. That may sound selfish, but let those surprises arise after I'm dead and gone.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 9:29 am to UptownJoeBrown
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None of this about who you are related to, what they did, or what percentage nordic you are makes anyone of you mutts special. No one gives a frick except yourself
I’m not interested because I think I’m descendant from a king or something. I like to know what the day to day life was like for my ancestors and what they went thru for me to even be walking on this planet today. My third great grandmother lost her husband and three children within two weeks during a typhoid outbreak. My Irish came over as quarrymen and worked on the Erie canal. My great great grandfather was a republican Sheriff, his brother held in a confederate prison during the war. My French side came up through New Orleans and lost a child on board the ship. And all of them ended up on the same place at a point in history that allowed me to be born. It is a miracle. And it makes me appreciate my life and the comfort it affords me to know about those who made it possible
Posted on 3/21/26 at 11:22 am to MarsellusWallace
Yeah, bro, how do you think I ended up with this Indian feather tattoo? Unless you're born on the res, it takes research to learn you're 1/64 Cherokee.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:46 pm to UptownJoeBrown
Don't work that way boudreaux. To have/get a CDIB there has to be
documented proof of ancestry. Birth/death certificates. You can claim you
are blanket all day long but if you ain't got the card ---no freebies for you.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 3:25 pm to MarsellusWallace
The problem with ancestry dna only shows up your inherited traits. It doesn’t show every bit of DNA that makes you up, and it differs from brothers and sisters. My sister shows French, German, and Ghanaian. I don’t have any of this in mine, but we had a 2x’s great grandmother who we know was from Germany meaning I would be at least 6% German even with no other ancestry from there.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 4:19 pm to justaniceguy
quote:If you're from a Mormon family a crazy amount is already done for you. Took me an hour to trace family back to Joseph Smith's first meeting in New York which I'd imagine a lot of mormon's can do due to polygamy and an historically insular community.
There is also some kind of shady behind the scenes shite with 23&me. Ancestry is just owned by Mormons (who as it turns out are super into genealogy)
They do solid work, but they’re so into it that somewhere past the edge of actual records, they just… keep going. I’ve never really understood how that transition happens, where documentation ends and momentum takes over.
My grandma had this massive family tree, like 12 by 8 feet, that she’d bring to family gatherings and roll out across the floor. Everyone would crowd around tracing lines back through time, all the way past Jesus, through Babylon, and eventually to Adam and Eve.
The best part was the middle stretch. She didn’t believe in a young Earth, so there was this weird transitional layer where the names slowly degraded. You’d go from normal historical names to stuff like Ithor, Bringer of Rain, and then eventually to what were basically caveman grunts, Ug, Orf, before snapping right back into biblical names at the end.
Even as a kid, like 7 or 8, I remember thinking something was off. We go from normal names, to cartoon cavemen, then back to normal names again? All my cousins are crawling around on the floor having their minds blown, and I’m just on the couch doing on of these:
Posted on 3/21/26 at 4:36 pm to MarsellusWallace
I did 23&Me. Wasn’t surprised by the Nigerian and Ghanaian I had in me but I was very surprised by the 20 percent British and Irish I had in me.
I deleted 23&Me a while back but I was surprised to learn that I had a third cousin in Louisiana. I’m from Philly so that was a surprise. I really want to try Ancestry
I deleted 23&Me a while back but I was surprised to learn that I had a third cousin in Louisiana. I’m from Philly so that was a surprise. I really want to try Ancestry
Posted on 3/21/26 at 5:14 pm to TigerBaitOohHaHa
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I’m not interested because I think I’m descendant from a king or something. I like to know what the day to day life was like for my ancestors and what they went thru for me to even be walking on this planet today
You could have stopped right there. That is valid. Everything after that no one gives a frick. My point stands.
This post was edited on 3/21/26 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 3/21/26 at 5:21 pm to UptownJoeBrown
quote:I clicked back the comment to see what your discussion was about, and now I'm kind of curious. What is it about?
You could have stopped right there. That is valid. Everything after that no one gives a frick. My point stands.
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