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re: Garrett Ward indicted on 2nd Degree Murder - St. Charles beatdown guy

Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:32 pm to
The max is 40. You think some young 20 something is going to take 25? To someone that age 25 years ends their life. He's going to trial if the offer is 25. Any priors?
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 2:33 pm
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:32 pm to
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would you not flee?


would have been gone
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:33 pm to
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The max is 40. You think some young 20 something is going to take 25? To someone hat age 25 years ends their life. He's going to trial if the offer is 25. Any priors?




Serving 18 years (with God knows what further reductions will occur in the next two decades) is not the end of his life. Life without parole, probation or suspension of sentence is the end of his life, though, and that's what happens at trial.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:36 pm to
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The max is 40. You think some young 20 something is going to take 25? To someone that age 25 years ends their life. He's going to trial if the offer is 25. Any priors?



25-30 is not the end of his life. End of his prime, sure, but he can still have a life after 50 years old.

Question is, how bad will prison be for someone that did what he did? When you're inside, you quality of life really depends on your crime, especially in the first couple of years.

For all those black men in prison, he's right behind child molesters in their eyes I'm sure.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59461 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:37 pm to
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Life without parole, probation or suspension of sentence is the end of his life, though, and that's what happens at tria


you must have been a prosecutor. I started as one as well. We will have to agree to disagree. 25 isn't going to happen IMO.
Posted by tigersfirst
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
1064 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:38 pm to
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Look, it's your opinion, that's fine.

Im giving you mine based on my understanding of the building and knowing a significant amount about the case. Though, like I said, the strength of the case is irrelevant at this point.

It's simple: if Cardell Hayes got 25 for doing what he did, he has zero shot at getting less than 30 for this, unless, like I said, he wraps it early. The racial difference will be in the back of the minds of those making the decisions.

The suggestion of 5 or 10 is laughable. The DA would take it to trial and lose before that occurred, no matter how weak the case is. And fwiw, Ward has almost no shot at trial.


I never suggested 5 or 10. I said your statement claiming there isn't a judge in the building that would give him less than 20 simply isn't true without knowing the facts of the case, which apparently you do since you edited the post above changing your initial response of claiming to know "almost everything" about the case to claiming to know a "significant amount" about the case.

And Cardell Hayes went to trial and was convicted of manslaughter, leaving the sentencing up to the judge. If the facts of this case are a certain way, it isn't out of the realm of possibility for an agreed upon sentence of less than 20 given the kid's lack of criminal history, though the family would likely have to be ok with it since that is how the DA operates. IF an agreed upon sentence of less than 20 years is reached between the DAs office and the defense, there are plenty of judges in the building that would sign off on it.

I'm not saying that's going to happen, but acting like 35 is a done deal at this point is a premature.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:38 pm to
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you must have been a prosecutor. I started as one as well. We will have to agree to disagree. 25 isn't going to happen IMO


Know whats scary about this disagreement?

He's going to listen to his lawyer's advice and I'm sure they all have different opinions like you two.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:39 pm to
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though the family would likely have to be ok with it since that is how the DA operates


Yeah...have you heard/read their words?

They want blood, and rightfully so.

Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:40 pm to
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25 isn't going to happen IMO.



I honestly agree, but not in the same way you do. I can't see the DA agreeing to a number that low.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:41 pm to
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Garrett's gonna get it up his arse I think I'd rather eat a bullet than live in a cage and get arse raped


Guys real prison isn’t like movie prison

He will get 3 meals a day, watch TV, go outside and play basketball and workout with his friends, get to play cards and dominoes, smoke cigarettes...it really isn’t all that bad when you think about it.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:44 pm to
I'm telling you that, even ignoring the family, Leon Cannizzaro would not accept 5 or 10.

Not. A. Shot.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:45 pm to
You would know. How long was your stint after your 5th DUI?
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
5069 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:46 pm to
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Guys real prison isn’t like movie prison

He will get 3 meals a day, watch TV, go outside and play basketball and workout with his friends, get to play cards and dominoes, smoke cigarettes...it really isn’t all that bad when you think about it.




Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11817 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:46 pm to
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Guys real prison isn’t like movie prison

He will get 3 meals a day, watch TV, go outside and play basketball and workout with his friends, get to play cards and dominoes, smoke cigarettes...it really isn’t all that bad when you think about it.


Get on a work release program and bang broads. It is the life!
Posted by tigersfirst
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
1064 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:49 pm to
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No, it isn't. There isn't a judge in the building who would give him 20.


Not saying the DA will offer 5 or 10. You are speaking premature by saying 25-35 is as low as the DA will go. And if the DA agrees to 20 or 18 or 15, plenty of judges would agree to it.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:49 pm to
How difficult is it for someone with money to just disappear?
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:49 pm to
I was in there for about 14 hours

Got out mid afternoom. I passed on lunch in there so I went to Sammy’s and got boiled crawfish

If you have any more questions let me know
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11817 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:50 pm to
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I'm telling you that, even ignoring the family, Leon Cannizzaro would not accept 5 or 10.

Not. A. Shot.


Can the family be paid to agree to a light sentence?
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14541 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:51 pm to
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Got out mid afternoom. I passed on lunch in there so I went to Sammy’s and got boiled crawfish



What a great nawlins day
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:51 pm to
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I was in there for about 14 hours

Got out mid afternoom. I passed on lunch in there so I went to Sammy’s and got boiled crawfish

If you have any more questions let me know


....and a beer?
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