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re: Gambit article: "Is NOLA Worth It?"
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If you enjoy NOLA, it's worth it.
I get New Orleans, as I said previously it's my favorite city in the world.
It still isn't worth it to live there, and I wasn't going to move to the suburbs of New Orleans.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:08 pm to lsupride87
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3rd biggest city in the state
Lafayette metro passed up Shreveport metro baw
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:08 pm to White Bear
This thread got totally hijacked...
But as someone born uptown and have lived in Nola for my entire 28 years, outside of my stint at LSU, I find myself scratching my head and looking at opportunities outside the state. The biggest thing holding me back here is family/roots. A lot of my college friends that moved to Nola after school have moved away. I am comfortable with the job opportunities here in my line of work, but the cost of living versus what you get in return is driving me crazy lately.
SFP said it earlier, but it's true: New Orleans' charm is its apathetic attitude and resistance to change/evolution.
There's a lot that needs to be done to turn this city around, and it probably belongs in a different thread. Each person who lives here has a different answer for "Is nola worth it," but right now for me, it isn't worth it.
This is how I feel
But as someone born uptown and have lived in Nola for my entire 28 years, outside of my stint at LSU, I find myself scratching my head and looking at opportunities outside the state. The biggest thing holding me back here is family/roots. A lot of my college friends that moved to Nola after school have moved away. I am comfortable with the job opportunities here in my line of work, but the cost of living versus what you get in return is driving me crazy lately.
SFP said it earlier, but it's true: New Orleans' charm is its apathetic attitude and resistance to change/evolution.
There's a lot that needs to be done to turn this city around, and it probably belongs in a different thread. Each person who lives here has a different answer for "Is nola worth it," but right now for me, it isn't worth it.
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I get New Orleans, as I said previously it's my favorite city in the world. It still isn't worth it to live there, and I wasn't going to move to the suburbs of New Orleans.
This is how I feel
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:10 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Lakeview is affordable so is Algiers. Mid City is also affordable. If you cant find anything in the City Limits,go to Gretna or Metairie. Plenty of affordable housing in the area
Yep Lakeview and Mid City is completely affordable if you make $250k per year. If you're making less than $100k per year good luck! 2500 square feet will run you $600k. All you will need is about $140k in closing costs.
The fact is the majority of this city are basically poor. A city that is built on tourism will always have a ton of working poor that cannot afford to live in the actual city.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:10 pm to lsupride87
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name a place in La that's better to live than Nola
Mandeville, Lafayette
In terms of raising a family and not being completely in the middle of nowhere
Agreed. If I did not plan on having a family, I would have stayed in New Orleans, though.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:12 pm to elleshoo9
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SFP said it earlier, but it's true: New Orleans' charm is its apathetic attitude and resistance to change/evolution.
The problem is, New Orleans has historically had a number of actual legitimate revenue generating industries (port, oil and gas, banking, shipbuilding, some other small manufacturing) with a smattering of that attitude throughout. When all of the legitimate revenue generators fall by the wayside, and most of the the populace all still have that attitude, you're in trouble.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:13 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:Which is why I said Shreveport is the 3rd biggest city in the state. Because it is
Lafayette metro passed up Shreveport metro baw
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:13 pm to elleshoo9
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the cost of living versus what you get in return is driving me crazy lately.
This is ultimately why I decided to move away. It just wasn't worth it, because we plan on having kids.
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New Orleans' charm is its apathetic attitude and resistance to change/evolution.
The best and worst thing about New Orleans is that people generally don't give a shite.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:14 pm to TitleistProV1X
quote:Calling lakeview and mid city affordable is somewhat of a joke
Yep Lakeview and Mid City is completely affordable
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:16 pm to TitleistProV1X
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Yep Lakeview and Mid City is completely affordable if you make $250k per year. If you're making less than $100k per year good luck!
There's a gap between <100k and 250k, which is fairly easy to be in, if you marry someone who is educated.
Also, you don't have to have a 2500 sq ft house
You can also close with a lot less than 140k on hand.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:17 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Why did those industries start to leave or shrink? I know banking used to be so much bigger here, it's what my great great grandfather did in the mid to late 1800s when Nola was prospering.
I get that New Orleans property will always be more expensive than Texas property bc New Orleans is limited on the extent to which it can expand.
What caused Nola to be overtaken by Houston and Atlanta in the late 1800s and 1900s? Was it due to the political climate? Obviously New Orleans has a better "feel" than these other two cities historically. If you could clean up New Orleans crime, education, and infrastructure, you'd have companies flocking to locate themselves here I'd expect.
I get that New Orleans property will always be more expensive than Texas property bc New Orleans is limited on the extent to which it can expand.
What caused Nola to be overtaken by Houston and Atlanta in the late 1800s and 1900s? Was it due to the political climate? Obviously New Orleans has a better "feel" than these other two cities historically. If you could clean up New Orleans crime, education, and infrastructure, you'd have companies flocking to locate themselves here I'd expect.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:19 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:Me and my wife do well for 30. A nurse and a CPA
There's a gap between <100k and 250k, which is fairly easy to be in, if you marry someone who is educated.
Also, you don't have to have a 2500 sq ft house
You can also close with a lot less than 140k on hand.
Lakeview and Mid city are absolutely not affordable for us.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:19 pm to elleshoo9
The oil bust certainly didn't help.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:20 pm to elleshoo9
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If you could clean up New Orleans crime, education, and infrastructure, you'd have companies flocking to locate themselves here I'd expect.
That chance was squandered 12 years ago. Of course, you could also argue that event reinforced the notion that the city could never really be a major business player again, regardless of what it did in recovery.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:21 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Shreveport is nowhere
This for me.
There's no way I'm moving that far away from a decent airport. Say what you will about South La, but at least it's only a short drive to the Florida coast and you can travel to a good portion of America by direct flight (Atlanta, Tampa, Orlando, Vegas, NYC to name a few). Bored one weekend? A cheap SW/spirit/frontier flight and a priceline hotel can almost make you forget about all NOLA/Baton Rouge's problems.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:22 pm to THRILLHO
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talking about a perceived lack of career opportunities, compensation they say hasn't kept pace with the rest of the country
Big problems facing NOLA and SoLa as a whole.
I think the high speed rail and better transit between BR and NO will put people in both cities within easy reach of two job markets, making the whole region more viable and competitive.
We seem to attract manufacturing and chemical companies but we can't retain or attract a lot of white collar jobs. New Orleans is actually an especially bad market for its size when it comes to that.
I am hoping that Brown and Root eventually becomes Shaw Part 2.
I'd like to see a discount airline use MSY as a hub too.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:23 pm to Y.A. Tittle
But New Orleans had already lost its stature compared to Houston and Atlanta in the early to mid 1900s
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:25 pm to elleshoo9
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New Orleans had already lost its stature compared to Houston and Atlanta in the early to mid 1900s
After WWII is when it began.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:27 pm to elleshoo9
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But New Orleans had already lost its stature compared to Houston and Atlanta in the early to mid 1900s
Earlier than that. It started in the mid 20th century. It was pretty well complete by the 1980s.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 4:32 pm to elleshoo9
I had looked at Jefferson parish budget vs Orleans. $600M vs $1.04B for 2017. Where does that much money go every year?
If I could make one change, it would be that all city spending over a certain (say $100k) amount gets published to the public in a very transparent way. The public doesn't get to vote on each piece of spending, but the city is required to notify residents on where the money goes. That way people are more informed when it comes to election time.
All of this information is available, but you have to dig for it or request it, and nobody has time or desire to actively seek it out. If it was presented to us on a frequent basis, I bet people would be storming city hall with pitchforks
If I could make one change, it would be that all city spending over a certain (say $100k) amount gets published to the public in a very transparent way. The public doesn't get to vote on each piece of spending, but the city is required to notify residents on where the money goes. That way people are more informed when it comes to election time.
All of this information is available, but you have to dig for it or request it, and nobody has time or desire to actively seek it out. If it was presented to us on a frequent basis, I bet people would be storming city hall with pitchforks
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