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From a real estate persepctive, have you ever imagined BR if Standard oil never came?

Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:30 pm
Not taking about pollution , but from a real estate perspective.
do you ever imagine how the city would have developed along the Mississippi River if Standard Oil in 1909 ( subsequently Exxon Mobil) was not allowed to take valuable river front property?
Would we have a riverwalk comparable to New Orleans?
Would it be expensive housing? A water front park like Louisville?
Would Downtown have extended North?





Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32558 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:31 pm to
I’ve had this talk multiple times with BR old timers. I would hope it would be a nicer place.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98200 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:35 pm to
Take away the blue collar economy and Baton Rouge revolves entirely around state government and academia.
Smaller city, but more sophisticated and educated. It wouldn't be a bad place to live.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52822 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:35 pm to
Nothing more beautiful than seeing those smokestacks as backdrops of the state capitol from the MSR bridge.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19322 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:36 pm to
Could you imagine Louisiana if the greedy politicians didn't sign all of the offshore royalties away.

Or the casino winnings actually went to the roads and schools.

Posted by Brazoria Bengal
Your Wildest Dreams
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:37 pm to
Honestly have never thought about it, but I can imagine the infrastructure of the city would be much better suited to accommodate the populace.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:39 pm to
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Could you imagine Louisiana if the greedy politicians didn't sign all of the offshore royalties away.



Not what happened.

quote:

Or the casino winnings actually went to the roads




Never was supposed to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101474 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:40 pm to
I posted about this in another thread recently.

Should have always kept LSU adjacent to downtown on the northside there and it could have expanded northward toward where the refineries are.

The refinery could have (should have?) been built south of the city -- hell, even around where LSU is now, or definitely down along the area where LSU has all those ag fields.

Baton Rouge would look somewhat like Austin, with a vibrant relevant downtown adjacent to the university. The "new" State Capitol could have been built in the area of the city hall complex.

Baton Rouge is a much different place in this context and I suspect the neighborhoods surrounding this area might have fared a lot better.

Oh well.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101474 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:49 pm to
One thing to note, that refinery was hugely influential, (and probably got it's biggest expansion) in wartime production for WWII, with regard to the manufacturing of synthetic rubber and general refining.

Given the era, it made a lot of sense to build it basically in the middle of a working middle class residential area, as that's where the workers all lived.

Baton Rouge was nothing but a rather small town backwater until they ramped up that facility in the early 40s to the scale it is now. It resulted in a huge boost to the city population.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6498 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:49 pm to
Lol at all of you thinking Baton Rouge would be more than Starkville Mississippi without the petrochemical industry calling it home.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37361 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:50 pm to
Would Gravy still be living at his mom's house?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101474 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:51 pm to
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Lol at all of you thinking Baton Rouge would be more than Starkville Mississippi without the petrochemical industry calling it home.


You talking to me?
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19322 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:56 pm to
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Not what happened.


You are incorrect if not please explain why no state taxes are paid on oil exploration over six miles offshore.

You were probably suckling on your mom's teet when the Casino Bill passed. They sold it as "All This Money Will Go To Fix Our Roads And Schools". We will be like Texas. Ha Ha

But you know how it all went down, why does a state with all of the oil/gas/casinos still rank last or 2nd to last in the US for education

Moron
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:05 pm to
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But you know how it all went down, why does a state with all of the oil/gas/casinos still rank last or 2nd to last in the US for education

We aren't even near the bottom in funding per pupil. It's difficult to change the fact that such a large percentage of our students come from single parent homes or are living with their auntie and being raised on welfare.

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This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 5:09 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260898 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

But you know how it all went down, why does a state with all of the oil/gas/casinos still rank last or 2nd to last in the US for education


Good students make good schools, not the other way around
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25491 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:13 pm to
What brings in more tax revenue, Exxon Mobil or Lawuishas beauty supply?
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19322 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:21 pm to
So the fault falls on the kids ?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260898 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:25 pm to
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So the fault falls on the kids ?


Fault?

You can't magically cause people to learn. Everyone has a capacity to learn, it's not going to change. Smart kids bring test scores up
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:26 pm to
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So the fault falls on the kids ? 

Look at the impressive list of states that we already out spend.

IA
WA
TX
NC
CA
CO
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260898 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:29 pm to
In Ak we spent like 20k per kid for village schools with terrible results
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