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re: From 2010-2020, downtown Baton Rouge's population grew faster than Ascension Parish.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:31 pm to In The Know
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:31 pm to In The Know
I would think the conversion of older buildings into apartments. It’s not like they were building new homes there.
I used to live in a house in Beauregard town off Maximilian. I would walk around or ride my bike to the casino without much issue.
I used to live in a house in Beauregard town off Maximilian. I would walk around or ride my bike to the casino without much issue.
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:31 pm to In The Know
An increase in the homeless population is not something to be proud of.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:33 pm to facher08
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This just isn't the case. I lived downtown when the momentum was leaps and bounds stronger than what it is now. I bought in MidCity, on the one hand, to start building some equity, but on the other hand because downtown is a shell of what it was just 5 years ago. The homeless, while not pushy, are growing in numbers, the street racers are out of control, and the nightlife is just stale.
While I might quibble over the details, I don't think any of that has anything to do with momentum. Residential capacity keeps increasing, and it's going to massively jump when the Chase building reno is done. As long as that continues, and people keep maxing out capacity, the businesses will follow. The more people, the more businesses, and the more political will there is to "clean up" the area.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:42 pm to Joshjrn
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I don't think any of that has anything to do with momentum.
Oh, I feel the opposite. During my time, 440, the Commerce, Onyx, 525, and several new hotels were all built/renovated. Not to mention the influx of new restaurants. Plus, many of these projects were going on simultaneously.
While think the Chase reno is a great thing, I'm not sure of any other major residential projects going on. I could be wrong.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:51 pm to In The Know
Well yeah. A shite load of new housing came up in that time downtown.
The question is how many moved out of downtown during the pandemic.
The question is how many moved out of downtown during the pandemic.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:57 pm to facher08
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While think the Chase reno is a great thing, I'm not sure of any other major residential projects going on. I could be wrong.
I know other properties have been purchased, but they haven't announced use cases yet, at least as far as I know. So let's ignore those for a minute. Chase alone is, what, 150 or so residential units? People would look at you like you were insane if you said a new neighborhood with 100 lots wouldn't have a substantial impact on the economic capacity of an area.
Plus, the River Center Theater just finished a massive full gut reno that's now going to bring larger acts, starting with the city's first full Broadway touring season that we are about to wrap up.
To shift the emphasis a bit: as long as rents downtown are fricking astronomical (as they are now), there will be residential projects on the horizon. I'll concede that downtown has lost its momentum when those rent prices start coming down. Until then? I just see natural ebbs and flows, not a loss of momentum.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:06 pm to dewster
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The question is how many moved out of downtown during the pandemic.
For context, the Commerce Building has 93 units. This is current availability and pricing. Notice the prices, and that only one of them is actually unoccupied:
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:30 pm to In The Know
That's alot of homos
Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:36 pm to Joshjrn
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I know other properties have been purchased, but they haven't announced use cases yet, at least as far as I know. So let's ignore those for a minute. Chase alone is, what, 150 or so residential units? People would look at you like you were insane if you said a new neighborhood with 100 lots wouldn't have a substantial impact on the economic capacity of an area.
Since the Holden era, there have been 6-7 others like Chase…either new construction or renovated old office buildings that we repurposed. It’s definitely a huge impact, and it’s why there is a Matherne’s, gyms, and a pharmacy downtown.
I suspect that hotels have a bigger impact on the restaurants and bars though. Unfortunately a lot of that dried up in the pandemic. But they are coming back slowly.
I’d like to see another hotel downtown. Preferably a Marriott branded property.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:57 pm to Joshjrn
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Plus, the River Center Theater just finished a massive full gut reno that's now going to bring larger acts, starting with the city's first full Broadway touring season that we are about to wrap up.
I just ran past that and it looks great. I'd love to see more shows there. The river center bookings have been atrocious for a while now.
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People would look at you like you were insane if you said a new neighborhood with 100 lots wouldn't have a substantial impact on the economic capacity of an area.
I agree it's will have an impact, we'll see if it makes a dent. The apartment unit to single family home isn't really an apples to apples comparison, and I tend to agree with what dewster said. I imagine the restaurants see more clientele from the hotels rather than the downtown residents. There are a few barflys at the different establishments, but the majority of people I know that live down here don't frequent the establishments during the week.
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To shift the emphasis a bit: as long as rents downtown are fricking astronomical (as they are now), there will be residential projects on the horizon. I'll concede that downtown has lost its momentum when those rent prices start coming down. Until then? I just see natural ebbs and flows, not a loss of momentum.
Rents are going up all over the country. I don't base my feelings off of those indicators but rather more of a qualitative viewpoint having lived down here for the better part of a decade. The vibe started to wane pre covid and hasn't been the same since. I'm not sure if you live or work down here or for how long, but if you do, I can't see how you would say walking down 3rd street on a Saturday night in 2016 is in anyway comparable to now.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:57 pm to Joshjrn
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Notice the prices, and that only one of them is actually unoccupied:
Looks like they haven't added mine yet.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:59 pm to Joshjrn
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Downtown Baton Rouge has always been limited by residential availability. Businesses failed because there weren’t enough people after 5pm. Developers are finally figuring that out, and residential is going up like crazy, and they are charging a fortune for it.
True but now there isn’t shite to do downtown after 5 unless you wanna hit up Happys or whatever bald eagle is now
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:05 pm to facher08
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can't see how you would say walking down 3rd street on a Saturday night in 2016 is in anyway comparable to now.
That sucks to hear. Downtown was finally coming to life about 2008-2015. Roux House, Happys,, B & T, Tsunami rooftop, that wine place…Downtown had a nice mix of fun bars with a perfect size crowd for few years.
What bars still exist down there other than Happys?
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:11 pm to LaBR4
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Matherne's Doin' Work.
Excellent store, great lunch plate selection, hot/cold.
Matherne's downtown is a gem. And they absolutely KILL it during Mardi Gras season as the only real grocery store near parade routes.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:20 pm to Cosmo
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Must be a percentage
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:20 pm to supadave3
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Roux House, Happys,, B & T, Tsunami rooftop, that wine place…Downtown had a nice mix of fun bars with a perfect size crowd for few years.
What bars still exist down there other than Happys?
Roux House has been vacant for years now. Talks of reopening have been around since it closed, but nothing yet. Hueys, The Office, Blues Room and Breakroom have all closed. B&Ts is the last place to really party with a regular weekdend band like Roux House used to be (not counting trashy arse city bar). I think it cut back a day or two though. The Basin (old 1913) will get a mix of bands, DJs and Greek events/private parties.
Tsunami, Happys, Squeaky Pete's, and BTR all do well. Blend does well also. Not sure about Jolie Pearl. I don't like oysters, so I never go there but it's been around for a while.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:33 pm to facher08
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facher08
Thanks for the summary. I moved away in 2016 so I don’t have a good view anymore. quote:
Jolie Pearl
I know that it’s part of large ownership group that involves a number of other entities downtown. I would assume the hotels are their bread and butter while they get the business lunch of the day. Hopefully, something can breathe some like into BR because it seems to be struggling.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:51 pm to facher08
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Rents are going up all over the country. I don't base my feelings off of those indicators but rather more of a qualitative viewpoint having lived down here for the better part of a decade. The vibe started to wane pre covid and hasn't been the same since. I'm not sure if you live or work down here or for how long, but if you do, I can't see how you would say walking down 3rd street on a Saturday night in 2016 is in anyway comparable to now.
Office was downtown for a bit over eight years, up until about a year ago. And I tended to stay local into the evenings a fair bit. Still go to the 19th a day or two a week, go to shows at the Theater, grab dinner at Cocha, etc. But I'm admittedly not a daily denizen anymore in the way I once was.
And again, not necessarily arguing vibe of downtown in general. I simply believe that everything follows the increase in overnight residence, whether hotels or permanent. As long as that stays strong, I'm not concerned about the overall momentum of downtown.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:54 pm to facher08
I've been meaning to make it to The Main Lobby, but for some reason, I keep simply not.
Anyone been there? I would be curious to hear about the vibe.
Anyone been there? I would be curious to hear about the vibe.
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