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Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:56 am to mule74
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This was operated by Marsk. Their coverage is through a $3bn reinsurance pool through international group of P&I clubs.
Maersk shipping is one of the most capable seafaring companies in the world. They should have insurance ultimately underwritten by the Lloyds syndicate.
The lose of power is perplexing, as is the ship’s speed approaching the bridge. Container ships have massive single engine and single screw (propeller) systems.
They are not especially maneuverable, requiring navigation tracks to be planned and executed miles in advance.
I’m not sure if Baltimore requires a harbor pilot for entering and leaving port. This ship would require tugs for docking and dockside departure.
Whatever the case, it’s a massive failure of seagoing practice executed routinely and safely thousands of times around the world daily. Too many unknowns this morning to say with any certainty what the root cause was.
By the end of today the Coast Guard will have a good understanding of the accidents cause.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:58 am to Mr Breeze
For a ship that size (and foreign flagged) the Port of Baltimore would almost certainly require a local pilot for transit.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:58 am to Mr Breeze
quote:Fwiw, if you are basing the speed on the video from Tate, it is sped up for effect.
The lose of power is perplexing, as is the ship’s speed approaching the bridge.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:00 am to FleurDeLonestar
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For a ship that size (and foreign flagged) the Port of Baltimore would almost certainly require a local pilot for transit.
Agreed.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:00 am to pankReb
Can’t rule out cyber but terrorism seems a stretch
Typically, it’s human or mechanical error or combo
Typically, it’s human or mechanical error or combo
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 8:01 am
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:03 am to Mr Breeze
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I’m not sure if Baltimore requires a harbor pilot for entering and leaving port. This ship would require tugs for docking and dockside departure.
Reportedly there were 2 pilots onboard
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:06 am to SlidellCajun
CNN just reported a local pilot was on board.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:06 am to SlidellCajun
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Reportedly there were 2 pilots onboard
Yep, this has been widely reported this morning.
There could have been 20 pilots on that ship, it's not going to do much good when power keeps dropping. Maneuverability on something that large is likely already tough, adding multiple power outages to it is only going to make it even worse.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:08 am to ell_13
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Fwiw, if you are basing the speed on the video from Tate, it is sped up for effect.
Good point. I’d like to see the AIS data track which hopefully some port authority recorded. If not, the ships own voyage recorder will have that data. I believe that’s a Solas requirement.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:08 am to Bard
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Yep, this has been widely reported this morning. There could have been 20 pilots on that ship, it's not going to do much good when power keeps dropping. Maneuverability on something that large is likely already tough, adding multiple power outages to it is only going to make it even worse.
Yeah unless they brought in board some massive oars, it doesn’t really matter lol.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:09 am to Zarkinletch416
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How can a huge multi-million dollar ocean going Container Ship loose power?
Very simply. Could be as simple as a clogged fuel filter. I'm on a multi billion dollar production platform right now and we loose power all the time. At this very moment we are on backup power due to a lift pump failure. We have redundancies built in where our E-Gen will immediately kick on and gives us time to load up and swap to another generator.
I would imagine that is what you see happen after the initial blackout on the ship but Im honestly not sure. I would be shocked though if they arent set up similar to us.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:10 am to Bard
Pilots generally don’t navigate the ship though.)”(ie take the wheel)
They point out markers, objects, bridges….
They point out markers, objects, bridges….
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 10:01 am
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:10 am to Ripley
I hope the CCC and HPL are better maintained. I can't help but think of this when I cross them.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:11 am to SlidellCajun
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This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:11 am to Obtuse1
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Doesn't prior knowledge sidestep that? I would think it would ba hard not to find something that could be considered enough prior knowledge to avoid a dismissal of a suit on any commercial vessel more than a couple of years old.
Or an exception for the claims of the sovereign. That’s the cleanup, replacement and arguably the lost tax revenue from the port.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:12 am to im4LSU
It looks like power is lost twice? You gotta wonder if it lost power prior to the videos also? It was only 15-20 mins or less from leaving the dock, which makes me question if they were having engine issues the entire time and should have stopped or requested tug help sooner.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:15 am to udtiger
My fear is all 3:
Wrecks on the bridge
Ship crashing into it
Collapse whilst stuck in standstill traffic
Although i must say, i don’t often see ships passing beneath it while I’m on it.
We lived in Brusly around 15 years ago and crossed the bridge multiple times a day. I was irritated by the bridge, but never afraid. But now that I’m older such things kind of freak me out.
I still go to Benoits meat market around the holidays and dread being stuck in standstill traffic on that bridge.
Balconies higher than the 7th floor kind of rattle me now too.
Wrecks on the bridge
Ship crashing into it
Collapse whilst stuck in standstill traffic
Although i must say, i don’t often see ships passing beneath it while I’m on it.
We lived in Brusly around 15 years ago and crossed the bridge multiple times a day. I was irritated by the bridge, but never afraid. But now that I’m older such things kind of freak me out.
I still go to Benoits meat market around the holidays and dread being stuck in standstill traffic on that bridge.
Balconies higher than the 7th floor kind of rattle me now too.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:16 am to Deactived
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It's a machine when it's all said and done.
.......and a floating battering ram...when it's all said and done.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:17 am to berrycajun
I have a much higher fear while being stuck underneath a bridge than on top of one.
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