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re: Forget the truck nuts jokes, THIS is a sign of LA's downfall

Posted on 7/26/20 at 8:59 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 8:59 am to
that's funny. i like to browse FBM b/c there are often deals. expanding my search to the Laffy area has really opened things up

i just didn't expect to find a salvage title Gallardo hanging around in Breaux Bridge on a Sunday morning
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 9:01 am to
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i maybe confusing it with the aventador, but after that generation they were gone


Wouldn't surprise me. The Corvette uses some fancy automatic now.

I don't get it. The standard transmission is a remarkably effective, efficient device.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481279 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 9:02 am to
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The standard transmission is a remarkably effective, efficient device.

Computers control way too much and the cars are too powerful
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 9:04 am to
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I don't get it. The standard transmission is a remarkably effective, efficient device.


It is but they are becoming obsolete due to the complexity of modern cars and fuel efficiency requirements. Modern automatic transmissions are superior to manual transmissions in every way and have almost completely supplanted them.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 9:13 am to
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I don't get it. The standard transmission is a remarkably effective, efficient device.


Not really when compared to today's automatics.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8692 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 9:21 am to
Yep, hence why you'll never see cars leaving out things like stability control like the Carrera GT again.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 9:21 am to
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Forget the truck nuts jokes


Truck nuts are not a joke, baw.
Posted by cryptkeeper
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2018
199 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 9:34 am to
If you’ve ever driven an E-gear pre-2009 Gallardo, you realize really quick they leave a lot to be desired.
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:27 am to
I drove a 755 hp corvette recently with auto and loved it. There’s no way I could handle it in manual
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:52 am to
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Because today's "automatics" are superior in every way to manuals.

Except for the fun of working the machine, for people who enjoy the mechanics of making the machine function.

From a performance standpoint, it's been a minute since humans could outperform a paddle shifter. They've gotten too refined and don't scavenge nearly as much power as they used to and the speed with which a dual clutch arrangement can execute a gear change is blinding. Plus, with the stupid fast gear changes at the driver's fingertips, manufacturers can cram more gear ratios into a gearbox letting the driver rip up and down through them without fatigue to keep the car right at the peak of its powerband.

I enjoy using all four limbs when driving, but I think I'm looking for a paddle shifter on my next car.
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 10:58 am
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:00 am to
I wouldn't let my manservant drive a cheap Lambo
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:06 am to
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Modern automatic transmissions are superior to manual transmissions in every way


That’s great. It’s still not as fun and enjoyable to many nor will it ever be.
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 11:06 am
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:15 am to
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That’s great. It’s still not as fun and enjoyable to many nor will it ever be.



I'm not arguing that point. My current vehicle is a 6 speed manual but if I were looking to purchase a high performance sports car I wouldn't entertain anything other than a modern automatic transmission for the performance factor.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:52 am to
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Breaux Bridge is on the bayou?


Is Bayou Teche not a bayou?
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 12:27 pm to
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Modern automatic transmissions are superior to manual transmissions in every way and have almost completely supplanted them.


I've never found one that could figure out what gear I want to be in. On a given course, a human can learn where the curves are and what the optimum places to shift are. This doesn't necessarily have any relationship to the position of the accelerator or the speed of the engine (i.e. the information available to the TCM). The curves themselves are an independent variable about which the automatic has no information.

Now, if you have paddle-shifters, this mostly gives you the same thing. But I've never seen a paddle-shifter that could skip gears, or modulate the clutch differently for a fast launch vs. for minimum wear.

There probably are systems that can do both of these things automatically, in some form (like a "launch mode"), but at a certain level of complexity I start to wonder what the point is. If you truly let the driver control gear selection, you're forfeiting most of the MPG and emissions improvements promised by an automatic anyway. And for what? A very expensive, slightly quicker shite? More likely the goal is compatibility with the 80% of drivers who can't drive stick but somehow think they need a sports car.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
19171 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 7:47 pm to
There’s a gigantic difference between and automatic transmission, typically with a torque converter and some of the newer dual clutches. Auto is faster than manual 99 out of 100 times.. maybe more. But a DCT is faster than both of the others all the time. There’s no comparison. Efficiency and direct drive of a manual with lightning fast shifts and all the computer controls for launch control and other ways to make you faster. Plus they’re just fun. I’ve driven a gated manual UR built Gallardo and an e-gear UR Gallardo. The e-gear car was more fun and faster, and that’s not even a modern DCT like the new C8, GT500 or GTR have.
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