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re: Ford CEO: We’ll Move to Fixed Prices
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:18 am to stout
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:18 am to stout
I don’t understand why they don’t just go directly to consumer at this point. I say this not really understanding how the business works but it seems unnecessary to have the middle man to begin with.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:18 am to SlimTigerSlap
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Has that ever worked?
So they make a choice.
Farmers are moving away from John Deere over subscription models and not being allowed to work on their own equipment.
A free market will self-correct
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:19 am to SG_Geaux
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I think you would see some shops that dedicate themselves to warranty work only.
BMW already has this in some areas
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:23 am to stout
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So they make a choice.
Farmers are moving away from John Deere over subscription models and not being allowed to work on their own equipment.
A free market will self-correct
Free market is an illusion when collusion is rampant.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:25 am to SlimTigerSlap
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Free market is an illusion when collusion is rampant.
Do you mean like collusion from dealerships lobbying for laws not allowing consumers to buy direct from manufacturers?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:26 am to stout
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Do you mean like collusion from dealerships lobbying for laws not allowing consumers to buy direct from manufacturers?
That too. I hate it all.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:30 am to stout
All I'm saying is Telsa is running with subscription services and it needs to be stopped in its infancy, because once that model gains a foothold, we're never going back.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:32 am to stout
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It is also the company's only service center in the state.
I'm not mad that they come out to you. See them in Houma every so often
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:32 am to stout
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You are still paying more than you would with a direct-to-consumer model
That all sounds like perfect world free market sunshine and rainbows. We don't have one of those.
Historically, before the covid reorganization of everything (Reset), if you're willing to wait for prices to drop or go to another state to get your vehicle you can save a LOT.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:32 am to stout
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Do you mean like collusion from dealerships lobbying for laws not allowing consumers to buy direct from manufacturers?
I'm 100% with you on direct-to-consumer auto (anything) sales. I just want language banning subscription services.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:32 am to SlimTigerSlap
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That too. I hate it all.
As I said, farmers that don't see the value in it are moving away from John Deere over their BS which includes subscription models. The same can happen with vehicles.
Tesla has been the industry standard EV for so long and can get away with some of the BS they use to generate revenue but that will probably change as other manufacturers catch up.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:33 am to redstick13
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Terrible news for the Affliction crowd
Is that still a thing?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:35 am to stout
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We’ll Move to Fixed Prices
So they won't inflate a f150 XLT $16k to discount it $16k?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:36 am to stout
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As I said, farmers that don't see the value in it are moving away from John Deere over their BS which includes subscription models. The same can happen with vehicles.
Tesla has been the industry standard EV for so long and can get away with some of the BS they use to generate revenue but that will probably change as other manufacturers catch up.
You're a more optimistic person than I am.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:39 am to stout
Ford’s biggest problems in no particular order:
1. Their build quality
2. Their unions
3. Their dealers.
Some of their dealers are awesome. Some are total scum bags. The company would be more successful without the crappy dealers.
1. Their build quality
2. Their unions
3. Their dealers.
Some of their dealers are awesome. Some are total scum bags. The company would be more successful without the crappy dealers.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:46 am to stout
Don't foeget $300 for upholstery sealer and $1000 for a special brake light.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:51 am to baldona
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You pay for it at the brewery, but often times the brewery has to sell it to a distributor, buy it back, and then sell it to you. It’s a racket.
I think you are referring to a specific Louisiana distro law, but that's not quite how it works, though it is bullshite.
I haven't heard of any other state or city having such rules.
I know many breweries charge similar prices to what the retailers around them charge in an effort to not undercut their partners.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:03 am to SlimTigerSlap
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Dealerships are lobbying against subscription services and will refuse to buy vehicles that have them.
They'll change their tune very quickly when they start getting a cut.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:16 am to ldts
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They'll change their tune very quickly when they start getting a cut.
100%
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:20 am to Giantkiller
quote:yep, marking up an already POS truck that's 70k on the lot to 90k will do that. Ford is garbage.
The dealers are proving themselves to be too costly of a middleman. This is on them.
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